I think you may have lost me. My initial point was that "proof imperative" is often (always?) invisible to ourselves
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Replying to @Pv
I'm saying it isn't invisible; it actually doesn't exist as a major drive for many. It's a personality trait, not universal human drive
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I think you have largely convinced me when stated like that.
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rethinking a bit, I think the proof drive is universal actually - yet its priority & influence on behavior varies amongst individuals.
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Replying to @vgr
The proof imperative is as much internal as it is external -- but your point is taken in that some ppl it doesn't make a mark
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Replying to @Pv
It is related to the competitive "win" drive rooted in wanting to be alpha. For some the countervailing "exit" drive is far stronger
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Replying to @vgr
you're describing the Thielian split between Athletes and Nerds. Are you saying Nerds tend not to experience proof imperative?
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Replying to @Pv
jeez you like lumping things together... you're a lumper, I'm a splitter, that's one reason we argue so much :D
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I say (A, B), you say (A=X, B=Y) and reframe debate in (X, Y) assuming diff is insignificant. To me, lose diff = the whole point is gone
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