"I just want to know your opinion!" is often a thin veil over "Why don't you agree with me?"
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@ckhonson might be useful to reframe as: when 2 people think they're correct in non-empirical situation, how can one "win"?
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@ckhonson the only way I know to win in such a condition is to create a contradiction within the opponent's own system
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The issue is when one party doesn't even claim to have a consistent system (the context is, of course, Sanders fandom)

