Greg Borenstein@atduskgreg·Mar 29, 2015Replying to @beka_valentine@psygnisfive @vgr And being beginner-hostile by omission is very revealing of the community’s values.3
Venkatesh Rao@vgr·Mar 29, 2015Replying to @atduskgreg@atduskgreg @psygnisfive Beginner apathy is far more common than beginner hostility. Never actually seen beginner hostility.1
Greg Borenstein@atduskgreg·Mar 29, 2015Replying to @vgr@vgr @psygnisfive Do you know @amyhoy’s concept of the Help Vampire? It’s a dynamic that leads to beginner hostility: http://slash7.com/2006/12/22/vampires/…111
Venkatesh Rao@vgr·Mar 29, 2015Replying to @atduskgreg@atduskgreg @psygnisfive @amyhoy that sounds like a problem created by beginners though? Not an intentional program of hazing or something?1
Greg Borenstein@atduskgreg·Mar 29, 2015Replying to @vgr@vgr @psygnisfive @amyhoy At first. But it kicks off a cycle where in-group members withdraw from beginners and feel hostile towards them.4
Amy Hoy@amyhoy·Mar 29, 2015Replying to @atduskgreg@atduskgreg @vgr @psygnisfive not putting down the un-helpable results in broad hatred of everyone who ever asks for help. bad boundaries.1
Venkatesh Rao@vgr·Mar 29, 2015Replying to @amyhoy@amyhoy @atduskgreg @psygnisfive or you can just fork into beginner/pro communities.2
Amy Hoy@amyhoy·Mar 30, 2015Replying to @vgr@vgr @atduskgreg oh, and forking into "beginner comms" is like forking public ed. the impoverished will learn all wrong& never catch up1
Venkatesh Rao@vgrReplying to @amyhoy@amyhoy @atduskgreg yup, welcome to market economics. Darwin's a bitch etc. Nobody said world was fair and all get ed access by divine right12:03 AM · Mar 30, 2015
Amy Hoy@amyhoy·Mar 30, 2015Replying to @vgr@vgr @atduskgreg …education isn't offered by God, it's made by governments which can & should provide equal opportunity.1
Venkatesh Rao@vgr·Mar 30, 2015Replying to @amyhoy@amyhoy @atduskgreg Of course, along with env protection, welfare, social security. If you care what can/should come first,run for office :)