@atduskgreg @psygnisfive Beginner apathy is far more common than beginner hostility. Never actually seen beginner hostility.
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Replying to @vgr
@vgr@psygnisfive Do you know@amyhoy’s concept of the Help Vampire? It’s a dynamic that leads to beginner hostility: http://slash7.com/2006/12/22/vampires/ …1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @atduskgreg
@atduskgreg@psygnisfive@amyhoy that sounds like a problem created by beginners though? Not an intentional program of hazing or something?1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @vgr
@vgr@psygnisfive@amyhoy At first. But it kicks off a cycle where in-group members withdraw from beginners and feel hostile towards them.4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @atduskgreg
@atduskgreg@vgr@psygnisfive not putting down the un-helpable results in broad hatred of everyone who ever asks for help. bad boundaries.1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @amyhoy
@amyhoy@atduskgreg@psygnisfive or you can just fork into beginner/pro communities.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @vgr
@amyhoy@atduskgreg@psygnisfive once you bring market forces in via paid education, "unhelpable" turns into "you flunked course, have an F"1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @vgr
@vgr@atduskgreg have you ever tried this with any success? the vampires won't help themselves, that's why they're vampires1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @amyhoy
@amyhoy@atduskgreg Umm. Isn't that what the entire formal education sector is about? Just needs time for fields to mature.4 replies 0 retweets 0 likes -
Replying to @vgr
@vgr@atduskgreg and i have been doing paid professional classes for 5 years now & can tell you: no class can/will fix these ppl.2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
@amyhoy @atduskgreg YMMV. Taught 5 years in grad school as well, and never had a problem firmly shutting down students who wanted too much
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