So if it's not interstate geographic mobility simpliciter that's causing people not to know neighbors' names, as Robert Putnam suggested...
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...then what killed real community? Putnam blames TV/internet, definitely part of it. Crap urban design & secularization, legal stuff...
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Actually, it's that most neighbors are not worth knowing and before we had no real options :)
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though people DO seem happier when they have tighter relations with their dumbass physical neighbors, maybe that's just normals?
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I think you'll also like Nostalgia for the Absolute... there's some spiritual yearning conflated with community yearning
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yes! and my big thing is that they're connected, effectively the same thing
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There I disagree. There is overlap. THere are forms of spirituality that are communal, but there are also indie aspects.
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Going off to meditate is non-communal spirituality. 90% of even ritualistic communality (tailgate?) has 0 spirituality.
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For practitioners yes. For fans, no. They just think there is because they've experienced nothing much better.
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I think where you and I may differ is that I think there is an element of skilled striving to spiritual development
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Communatarians wishfully like to believe that community is a shortcut. It isn't. The road through Burning Man isn't shorter
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I don't think it's a shortcut. I think the two are profoundly linked though, and both hard. but maybe SO hard that we need to focus...
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