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Increasingly feels that AIs will never consistently pass any philosophically reasonable test of intelligence. But as we make the tests increasingly subtle, neither will most humans. This effect needs a name. It's like a progressive decertification of human intelligence.
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I think the problem is trying to attach definitions of intelligence to agents rather than to individual behaviors. A particular move or action may be intelligent in a given circumstance. The idea that an agent can be consistently intelligent all the time is basically wrong
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I don't think you can even reasonably upper or lower bound it. There is no floor of basic intelligence that any agent can always stay above. There is no ceiling of intelligence that it can never break through.
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Agreed , “philosophically reasonable” seems like a vague cop-out standard, but it’s actually fairly clear for me — it’s any standard I at least find interesting enough to engage with, and can explore without exhausting.
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Ie an infinite game standard of intelligence. Which will always seem like “moving goalposts” to intelligence finite-gamers, who think intelligence is a game you “win” rather than “keep playing”
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This is not moving goalposts for AIs. This is discovering through AIs that the goalposts were in the wrong place for HIs along. AI is arguably a field partly devoted to the debunking of bad theories of human intelligence.
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Washing clothes by hand was a craft perfected by countless generations of women until the washing machine broke the chain. Like stonemasonry, today's architects cannot expect to use carved stone details on houses because a strain of culture is for all practical purposes dead.
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Doing a thing well for the first time (AI expectation?) is very different from doing it the right way because cumulative wisdom has ironed out most if not all errors in a particular task.
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You should meet my washing machine. It’s helplessly idle without me and frequently overburdened when I do deign cast my beatific gaze it’s way. Am I unpredictable or is my machine not up to the task?