Are there any words in English or other European languages that features the Hindi ठ sound?
I can’t think of one
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TIL this is called an aspirated retroflex consonant
I think I can instruct people to make the sound mechanically but I don’t think they can hear it
I have similar issues with v/w. I can mechanically produce the difference but hear it unreliably at best
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When we go transhuman we should all just replace mouths with speakers for speech. Speech production is a ridiculous bolt-on janky feature for mouths.
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not really. even as a contrastive feature a retroflex plosive is unusual, never mind adding as aspiration contrast:
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This link seems to refer to ट rather than ठ
English speakers seem able to get close to the former (the ordinary t as in plaTe is close) but can’t seem to do the latter at all
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People who speak European languages can't even hear the sound. It took me about 5 years before I could reliably. It is similar to Hindi speakers being unable to differentiate v and w.
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Google translate for sweet produces a reasonable version if you click the audio google.com/search?q=trans
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Linguist Peggy Mohan says that retro flex sounds are like a signature of India. Her claim that even Sanskrit got them after coming to India. Hence Sanskrit origin words outside of India don’t have that sound.
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