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When I was in the vulnerable age band, I expended real effort avoiding getting sucked in. Not sure why, but entirely wrong black-hole energy for me. Now that I’m very safely out of the age band I can see how these vortices work more clearly… and am extremely glad I avoided them
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I’m probably in the minority who are not suited to life in EAVs. I suspect a majority of people probably should. Spending part of 18-35 in an EAV is probably like parenthood. Fulfilling life chapter for majority, hell for the minority.
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EAV people tend to also have kids and move on to early middle vortex of community life organized around kids’ schooling and experience a clear transition to late middle age via empty nest events around 48-54. Most of my college friends are going through this now.
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There’s a whole A-plot life stage thing here. And there’s the B-plot. Avoid EAVs, no kids even if you get married, often no real jobs ever, rarely sign up for pillar-of-society responsibilities, blurry transition to late middle age. Civilizational B plots ‘r us 😆
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You’d think the checked out, no-skin-in-game NPC inconsequentiality of B-plot people would lead to A-plot people just ignoring them, but damn they don’t leave you alone. The very existence of the B plot and people choosing it is for some reason viewed as a threat by A-plot types.
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This is true even if we lead virtuous lives, and pay our way. I suspect A and B people are assets/burdens to society with about the same distribution mean, but the variance is far higher for A-plotters. They are either great assets or great burdens. Bs are narrow distribution.
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Duuuude… trads are one of the biggest EAVs around!!
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There’s a bit of a horseshoe in that Trads also avoid EAVs — although motivated by different reasons and choosing different alternatives than the B-plotters
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Trad: Married with multiple kids by your mid-20’s, living close to one or both sets of grandparents, seeing work as a means to provide for your family’s needs rather than expecting work to give you wealth, happiness, or meaning. That seems unlike this:
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Emerging-adulthood vortex: Any scene that emerges around anything that allows people 21-35 or so to make their bones in the world…it attracts activity and killer-instinct commitment with a do-or-die level nihilistic desperation, usually with an attached dating/hookup scene 🤔
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That’s the theory. Few execute before 30. It’s mostly blue-collar who actually have kids that young, often out of wedlock or with marriages that unravel by 25. They’re not trads in sense commonly talked about — educated, have their own online scene, take till 30s to settle down.
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That's my reality 🤷‍♂️ A supermajority of my IRL friends & acquaintances are college graduates, upper-middle or middle class, got married and had kids in their 20s, are not divorced. I think we're "Everyone I know voted for McGovern"-ing each other 😅
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