Turns out I didn't actually have enough xDai left after my bootstrapping to even pay for the trade... the Colony people had sent me 0.01 xDai (1c), and I'd spent about 0.0065 already, and I had 0.0035 xDai (~0.3c) left. Not enough xDai to sell CLNY to get more xDai 🤣
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Anyhow that was a good excuse to learn all this fancy "bridge" technology. So now given that the average tx on xDai seems to be about 0.2c, and I have $50 worth, I am good for about 25,000 tx if I don't spend xDai on anything else.
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For comparison, $50 will maybe get me 1-5 basic tx on Ethereum.
There's other ways to get small amounts of xDai btw, like the faucet
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Anyhow, now I'm all set up to try some adventures on Colony and other attractions in Gnosis land (recommendations welcome).
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But an interesting realization here: microtransactions are real now! For a couple of decades now people have been fantasizing about being able to cheaply move pennies around, now you can! I'm gonna try and do a bunch of penny-scale transactions next just because I can.
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Another really fun thing going on here is having the same address on multiple networks which feels very sci-fi. Like China Mieville's City and the City which I started reading but didn't finish (it is about 2 cities that somehow occupy the same space)
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Well, my actual DAO adventures have actually begun, with the Yak Collective pilot on Colony. We're also evaluating Aragon, DaoStack and Daohaus, as well as just winging it with our own home-rolled solution.
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Colony is basically a intra-DAO payments clearing house and voting-on-motions engine. Very different from the early beta I experimented with in 2017 which was a sort of distributed kanban board. That kind of project management functionality is now external to Colony.
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The recommended tool for kanban type functionality to actually manage and coordinate DAO projects is app.clarity.so which I'm *really* liking so far. Kanban + a kind of roadmapping tool based on seasons, and Web3 native wallet signin and token-based gating and payments.
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So I guess the idea is, you define and track projects and tasks in Clarity, with payment promises attached, but the actual payments are done on the DAO app on Colony. You then reconcile by checking a box on Clarity. This should obviously be an integration...
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Right now, our basic problem is that the YAKG token we minted to run our DAO lives on Gnosis chain but Clarity only allows Ethereum mainnet tokens to be added to the payments methods. The solution I suppose is to unlock YAKG and bridge it over to mainnet so it exists there too.
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Our initial experiments are stalled by the fact that under Colony's scheme you need "reputation" to stake to back motions for voting, but you need completed work to get reputation, so chicken-egg. Right now, none of us seems to have earned enough reputation to back motions.
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Root admins can force some actions, but right now, the DAO is running in authoritah mode. But things are slowly moving along. I *think* we're all gaining reputation, but the UI annotations are not very clear, so I don't know.
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Okay, Clarity is awesome. You can add a token gate so people who have your token or NFTs can join. And there's wikis, notes etc. I'm totally using this now for my own projects. I'll mint a token on Mirror and use it to gate access to a Clarity base where we will make evil plans.
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Hmm. I can't figure out how to add my Mirror NFT as a gate token for a Clarity base. I can't actually figure out where the contract address is. Hey how do I use my entry token to gatekeep a Clarity base?
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Okay, I suspect this can't be done. Mirror editions aren't proper NFTs I think, they all seem to live in one giant contract. The OpenSea link to the contract for a collected edition points to this thing
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Okay, founder of Clarity says it can be done this way. Search for your Mirror Edition on OpenSea, and then put in the general contract id with the token id of your edition.
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yep, it can still work in Clarity, but you'll need to specify the specific Token IDs within the overall contract.
we support both "all Token IDs within this contract" and "only [these] Token IDs within this contract".
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I'm trying it out. If you've bought one of my NFTs, reply if you want access to my experimental ribbonfarm Clarity base.
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If you've bought one of my NFTs (these), and would like to help me try an experiment on token-based access to stuff, reply to this.
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I'll have to reach out to a couple of people I know bought it, since it's mostly a list of addresses I don't know.
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Okay back to DAOing... finally figured out the staking/motion workflow in Colony. You activate some of the colony's native tokens you hold (YAKG in this case), then trigger an action, and stake some of the activated tokens.
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This is D'oh intuitive once you get it. The idea is that every action costs a certain stake, and the people backing that motion must collectively stake it with activated tokens. Then during the waiting period if there's an objection, there's a vote.
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And if the motion fails, you lose your stake. Presumably it burns or goes to the winning objectors or something. This thing now has 2 days to get through.
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A good example of DAO governance in action. A kind of "peaceful cancelation" via withdrawal of ENS delegation? No need to argue when you disagree. Just withdraw delegated authority. And if you hold enough direct authority, you're uncancellable? twitter.com/ericturnr/stat
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