Finally read the moxie post. Pretty good. Basically a to-do list. Not sure why any of it is controversial. He seems skeptical that the to-do list will actually get done, but I’m I’ve seen signs of activity/progress on most of it.
moxie.org/2022/01/07/web
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The focus on the client-server frame does seem odd. Didn’t quite get what that was about. No fundamental showstopper there, though full or even sharded nodes are unlikely to run on phone class devices. But the network edge 1 hope away can and will get a lot better.
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Anchoring on “people will not run their own servers” is odd. Strikes me as a case of “confidence at the wrong abstraction level.” I no longer even know what a “server” is in a world with options ranging from RPis to E2E encrypted-link cloud urbit servers.
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Logging an idea that seems important for future reference. A lot of shaky thinking is marked by what @bysl referred to as “confidence at the wrong abstraction level”
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Rent versus own, but for compute? To have your own server you need to have somewhere to put it and some way to connect it, regardless of whether it's an RPi or a big rack and if it's your own software or not. It's a bit more of a conceptual investment than simply self custody.
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It does feels like homeowner/nomad type dichotomy - you need some sort of an infrastructural anchor point to meaningfully self host stuff. An anchor point you can move away from - a laptop in your backpack with everything on it is a different paradigm.
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It might even be exactly that. I’m willing to run a traditional server or even a rack if I own a house.

