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I’d like to see an experiment in pure-paradigm Graeberism 🤔 A “Graeberland” with an economy based on pure credit-mutualism and ineffable, unbreakable entanglements. Where everybody must know everybody, bookkeeping is prohibited, and obligations are governed by felt guilt vibes.
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Not snarking. More like disagree-but-commit curiosity. Various Occupy groups dissolved into tyranny I’d structurelessness, but I don’t think anyone has genuinely tried pure Graeberism the way libertarians actually tried Ayn Randism (Galt’s Gulch, Seasteading etc)
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There’s something to be said for utterly naive experiments like this. They tend to fail 100% of the time, but you learn things. Also this crowd has been holier-than-thou preaching at the rest of us for a decade and I’m tired of it. Do an experiment, and put up or shut up.
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I dislike the Randians at least as much, but they do at least make foolhardy attempts to prove their theories experimentally, even if the only outcome is that they grow out of it.
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The closest experiment I’m aware of is the CHAZ thing in Seattle but that was heavily distorted by the BLMish context and extremely hostile context of a major city. This experiment needs a decent sandbox.
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Yes, your first order of business will be arguing among yourselves to sort out the No True Graeberland problem 🤣 100:1 odds against a group getting out of that discussion with enough coherence left to do anything. “Real Graeberism has never been tried” is the future here.
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This wouldn’t be Graeberland! I’m graeberland you’d have bookkeeping and obligations would be governed by reciprocity (including the counts from bookkeeping!) he doesn’t simply argues for the farthest opposite of the current systems he denounced.
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One must not speak ill of the dead, but from a brief, unpleasant interaction which ended with him blocking me, he was impossible to talk to when alive if you disagreed even slightly. It’s been >1 year since he died, and he’s back in zeitgeist with a posthumous book, so fair game.
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My summary take: Disliked Debt. A bad-faith sloppy polemic with 1 essay worth of insight bloated into a fat book. The bullshit jobs phrase was clever but the argument was bad. Did not read bureaucracy book. Only thing I liked was his essay on play
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