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I’m genuinely surprised by the number of people whose basic posture is “give me one real use case and convince me.” I can understand hostile rejection or just diving in to either explore or grift. But standing around like it’s somebody’s job to win you over? That is odd.
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Kinda ironic that Web3 thing presents as 100% transactional and money driven, and you have to buy in with cash, but it’s nobody’s job to actually sell it to you. Yes, there are self-appointed evangelists and people shilling coins, but this isn’t *actually* a product.
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It’s a cousin of Paul Ford’s “why wasn’t I consulted?” (wwic) phenomenon. “Why wasn’t I marketed to?” (wwmt) Why didn’t somebody carefully analyze your tastes and values and figure out a positioning and value proposition to appeal to you? Why indeed. ftrain.com/wwic
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I suspect this is how people miss booms, waiting to be invited. Same thing happened with PCs, Web1, Web2. This is a crash-only party. Nobody is invited. Everybody is a party crasher. Starting with Satoshi crashing central banker party. Crash in or sit it out. wwmt is silly.
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I think Web3 is waiting for its cgi moment. Web1 went from memoryless to stateful over ~5 years with cookies+cgi. Web3 is coming from the other extreme, from only immutable memory towards stateful.
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@ricmac’s Web History Project is the best thing like this that I am aware of webdevelopmenthistory.com/1993-cgi-scrip
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It’s not just gas fees. The whole persistence model is like eeprom. Write operations are like flashing in embedded programming. Need a throwaway state on top that gives up some trustless verifiability for convenience for the less critical stuff.
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Like if you wanted to use NFTs as tokens in a decentralized wallet-to-wallet game, where do hold game state? In a Web2 style db layer? That seems wrong. But it also seems silly to store game state on chain.
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Hmm. When you say “how OpenSea works” you mean the listing and bidding process? Foundation and mirror seem to do it all onchain, but I couldn’t quite tell how opensea worked. Looked to me that minting was done only after a bid was actually accepted.
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They use a few different types of minting. You're referring to "gassless minting" aka "we don't really mint and just store it on out MySQL db, then when someone presses the buy button we actually mint it as part of the buy transaction"
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