What’s an example of a large group that’s *not* defined by an abstract class?
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How about a small for-profit organization where founders step down without naming a successor and the most eligible and involved people decide they want to cooperativize the org
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Again, name one. You’re hiding behind an abstract class of supposedly non-abstract-class groups. And how small? 5 is my conservative set point. If you give me a group of 6-8… that’s weak.
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Kidding aside, I bet if I knew the details, and there were more than 5 people involved, I could cast the various parties into a 2x2
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I mean...... I'm not really sure what to make of your argument. These conversations objectively exist, I've been a part of them. Archetypal identification/ scapegoating is a problem but it can be dealt with, that is exactly why people do group therapy & learn conflict mediation
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Not only that, when archetypal identification comes up, sometimes that can be sussed out during the course of conversation, and this is when the most valuable learnings tend to occur
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If there were 5+ people in a room at once discussing something comparable to “this place has structural racism” and it went anywhere healthy and productive, I’d be very impressed. More likely it put something miserable out of its misery.
Invariably when things actually break out of bad equilibria in a positive way it’s because some small subgroup went off to the side and brokered an outcome.
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