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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jan 20
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      Consider making more robots Will Biden admin be pro-robots?https://twitter.com/vgr/status/1348373258018594816 …

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      robots are the answer the more robots we build and deploy visibly in more places, the more we'll have an appetite for new polities that are breaks from the past that's my political slogan Build More Robots
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    2. Nick Pinkston  🌐‏ @NickPinkston Jan 20
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      I assume not really pro-robot. I bet labor probably still is a blocker and in general tech isn't popular.

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    3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jan 20
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      Yeah but China tensions will change incentives quite a bit I think.

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    4. Nick Pinkston  🌐‏ @NickPinkston Jan 20
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      If we wake up... There aren't a lot of big robotics companies here actually, more Europe / Japan. Perhaps self-driving and tech in general could change that. I think we have a big advantage to press, but we'll see if it's possible to get it done.

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    5. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jan 20
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      I suspect reshoring and automation = PB&J. The more China automates, the more the only reason to manufacture there is about dirty energy. Renewables change that. I am betting energy-intensive commodities and intermediates stay in China, light energy finishing robot-reshored.

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    6. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jan 20
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      And service robotics in last mile and distribution is going to be much bigger than manufacturing. Consumerization of robotics.

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    7. Nick Pinkston  🌐‏ @NickPinkston Jan 20
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      Yea totally, but I'm saying that there aren't many big robotics companies here to lobby for these gov't measures. I suspect it'll be more organic, but I hope I'm wrong.

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    8. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jan 20
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      Yeah I agree. I think there’s a cost inflection point coming, like 2000 for software startups. Cost of robotics startups should plummet, as some of the AI gets dirt cheap and hardware gets commodity/open-source. Trigger is renewables plus falling lithium-ion costs.

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    9. Nick Pinkston  🌐‏ @NickPinkston Jan 20
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      Why is the trigger renewables and not the AI?

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jan 20
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      I think a lot of the push will come from green. Same tasks at lower, greener energy cost. Delivery, distribution, simple service. Human operators run on carbon-based energy. AI is more near-zero-marginal-cost enabler after initial training costs. Training = capex. Energy = opex.

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        1. Nick Pinkston  🌐‏ @NickPinkston Jan 20
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          Electric power is already cheaper than caloric power though, so while power density has real practical implications, I don't think electric costs are much of a real barrier. Brains are harder than muscles (not to say robot hardware is solved, far from it)

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        2. Greg Borenstein‏ @atduskgreg Jan 20
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          If you want robots, fight to increase how much humans get paid. You taught me that, Nick. No job will ever be done by a robot that can be done by an underpaid gig worker.

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