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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 30 Dec 2020
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      We’re talking selectorate theory for creative work, where instead of people/citizens/voters we’re talking about the hundreds or thousands of details that go into individual works by individual creators. Goes up to millions or billions for group works like movies.

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    2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 30 Dec 2020
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      The thing that fiction and engineering share is that they are like democracies. There is a HUGE group of interchangeables. Details that don’t really matter by default, but can occasionally matter as a function of strategy or chance. Eg: color of a wheel, drink the hero drinks.

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    3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 30 Dec 2020
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      This makes both harder work than respective “theory” cousins. Math for engineering, nonfiction for fiction. If you want to build an airplane, you HAVE to bind every detail even if you don’t care. If you’re doing airplane math, you can throw away details you don’t care about.

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    4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 30 Dec 2020
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      For eg. if you’re doing fluid dynamics, throw away everything except the shape/geometry. If you’re doing controls, throw away everything except the differential equation. But real planes have: paint colors, tire vendors, seat cover material choices.... about 10k more detail.

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    5. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 30 Dec 2020
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      Same with nonfiction. If you’re writing a cryptography paper, “Alice” and “Bob” will do. They’re even expected. Or just “user” or “customer” in other kinds of writing. In fiction, you do have to come up with an apt-enough name that it feels like a story about a person.

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    6. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 30 Dec 2020
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      Nonfiction/math are like absolutist dictatorships, where the set of interchangeables is much smaller than in a democracy and does not include most who would be included in a democracy. They can be suppressed/disenfranchised. Though sometimes they may fuel a popular uprising.

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    7. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 30 Dec 2020
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      Sometimes you may choose to elevate a detail from interchangeable to influential. Hercule Poirot and James Bond are names loaded with symbolism that shape the story. Otoh, Ross, Rachel, Monica, Joey, Chandler could easily be a million other names and it would make no difference.

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    8. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 30 Dec 2020
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      Fiction and engineering are so full of detail because they must either become part of reality (engineering results in real things) or present a sufficiently realistic illusion of it to allow immersion. But the theoretical cousins don’t need to be.

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    9. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 30 Dec 2020
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      This is true even of highly stylized and minimalist examples. For example consider the cartoon La Linea vs say...pic.twitter.com/WPVeruLmPP

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    10. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 30 Dec 2020
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      ...the icons on restrooms (nonfiction)pic.twitter.com/IQTjx49Fbk

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 30 Dec 2020
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      Or in the case of engineering, consider the vast gulf between the schematic CAD drawing of a minimalist widget vs the widget itself. Where widget = coffee mug, armchair, iPhone body...

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        2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 30 Dec 2020
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          The point is, don’t confuse the minimalism or lack thereof in a design for there actually being fewer details that need binding. When people get lazy about binding details using minimalist aesthetics as an excuse you end up with designs or stories that don’t work at all.

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        3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 30 Dec 2020
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          I like minimalism done well where there is no good reason to complicate things, and so long as you you don’t sacrifice details that matter (a la infamous Apple puck mouse). I’m not a fractal-fetish trad, prizing texture in fiction/engineering for its own illegibly vitalist sake.

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        4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 30 Dec 2020
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          But for all but the simplest artifacts and stories, I do like non-minimalism in a different sense: opinionated design. I don’t need richly textured design. But I like things and takes where a few interchangeable aspects have been elevated to influential or essential aspects.

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        5. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 30 Dec 2020
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          Interchangeable aspects of a design define a vast design space. Indifferent design picks randomly or lazily (eg uncritical imitation) from the space, which is as it should be for most details. But if you don’t promote say 5-20% of detail to influential, you fail in a key way.

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        6. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 30 Dec 2020
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          The thing is, vast design spaces are scary and distressing to experience. They channel the vast indifference of the universe. It’s like a total perspective vortex. Opinionated design cuts that vast dimensionality a bit and makes you feel a bit more at home in the universe.

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          Broke threading, continues herehttps://twitter.com/vgr/status/1344427453528252416 …

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          Think of it as personalizing reality for humanity, and manifesting abundance, by caring to bind variables you don’t have to. Hero’s name, dress style, mannerisms, backstory — if you don’t bind *some* subset of it you’ve created a nonfiction role, not a livable story.
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