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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Dec 2020
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      "Technology is just a tool," and "markets should serve humans" are propositions that emerge from unexamined, uncritical, self-important anthropocentricity. The artificial world is vastly more emergent than we think. It needs to be studied, understood, and related to like nature.

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    2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Dec 2020
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      Herbert Simon/Sciences of the Artificial vector of thing is unacceptably primitive still. That shit hasn't moved since 1970 and vague noises about "weakly coupled systems" and other chart-porn bs from the first pass 50 years ago.

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    3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Dec 2020
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      I'm gonna call my new religion Stackocentrism. Things revolve around the stack, not around the humans. Whatever your mental model of the stack, stackocentrism is still a better mental model than human-centrism.

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    4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Dec 2020
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      If we had a proper map of the leviathan, every balance sheet in the world would show up as safe/burning, and the topology would reveal systemic risk. A financial fire department would descend and put out the fire, do control burns etc.

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    5. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Dec 2020
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      The public balance sheet would add an equity stake in the rescued org in proportion to the disproportionate benefit to the “owner.” The less you matter to system survival, the lower your priority, and the higher the stake taken in exchange for rescue if you do get rescued.

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    6. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Dec 2020
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      Bailouts are not a bad thing. We live with imperfect knowledge in an uncertain world, with complex patterns of risk coupling. We just need a science of bailouts. A financial equivalent of disaster preparedness and response capability. Instead of processing through a moral lens.

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    7. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Dec 2020
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      A stupid thing about human-centric thinking is that every failure becomes a moral failure and the calculus of blame, reward, punishment, and justice becomes the theology of system repair. One reason is we use money allocation (both market and planned) as primary fix mechanism.

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    8. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Dec 2020
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      It’s not a bad mechanism, but it has the unfortunate property of also being the primary enabler if individual human quality of life. It’s almost like we need different monetary systems for humans vs the system.

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    9. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Dec 2020
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      Otherwise it leads to thinking Bill Gates lives 120 billion times better than average burger-flipper simply because he has a 120 billion times the net worth of the median person with no assets. Most of that money is Stack fuel. He probably only is 10-1000x happier than you and me

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    10. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Dec 2020
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      Enterprise money vs consumer money? Not a bad idea actually. Things like food stamps get at that. As do things like earmarked capital equipment grants to industries. Separate power money from survival-and-hedonism money. Bread-and-circus bucks vs. infrastructure bucks.

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 21 Dec 2020
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      Financialization would actually be a good thing if it included almost everybody in its logic, and encoded what everybody knows about the system. It’s currently terrible because it reflects a tiny minority view of how the world works. A bunch of 0.1% idiots trading green lumber.

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        1. THE REAL QUAID‏ @true_quaid 21 Dec 2020
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          The standard unit of global finance is not a global currency - it's national (USD) - this incentivizes "realpolitik" zero-sum behavior since risks can be effectively outsourced whereas gains can be nationalized. The irony is that the gains aren't even being nationalized in 2020.

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        1. Varun Adibhatla‏ @vr00n 21 Dec 2020
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          @alexdw86 and I made a case for introducing irrational exuberance financialization that the housing markets witnessed a decade ago in order to decarbonize large swatches of the economy.https://yakcollective.substack.com/p/decarbonization-strategies …

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        1. Greg Borenstein‏ @atduskgreg 21 Dec 2020
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          Greg Borenstein Retweeted Richard Murphy

          This resonated with this recent thread on where money comes from https://mobile.twitter.com/RichardJMurphy/status/1337737606688333826 … I think I agree with you about the importance of financial infrastructure I just think it has very different physics than the current paradigm assumes.

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          Richard Murphy @RichardJMurphy
          I keep hearing people complain that the ‘mainstream media’ does not understand economics and that we’re talked down to as if everything must be explained as if the economy is a household. In this thread I explain all you (and they) need to know. Economics in one thread then....
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        2. Graham Rowe‏ @grahamsrowe 22 Dec 2020
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          Wow epic thread

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        3. Graham Rowe‏ @grahamsrowe 22 Dec 2020
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          Extremely interesting topic. Any top reads on this? My knowledge of this set of ideas is based on actually building a company myself. Can’t say I’ve read much on this. People like patio11, Byrne Hobart and yourself who think and tweet in this direction are around I guess

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        2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 22 Dec 2020
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        2. Ethan Buchman‏ @buchmanster 26 Dec 2020
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          This is an amazing thread, but rather than disdain human centering outright, seems it should be more about better representing different scales of activity within the financial/monetary system. Value is multi-dimensional and global/national moneys coarse grain too much info

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          Ethan Buchman Retweeted Ethan Buchman

          "Enterprise money vs consumer money" seems on the right track, but more fractal hierarchy of regional money extending from local neighborhoods, municipialities, self-sufficient regions to global/international level and backhttps://twitter.com/buchmanster/status/1330600013626552321 …

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          Ethan Buchman @buchmanster
          Our goal with this technology must be to evolve a more sound and sustainable international financial regime that bridges the gap from local to global money and back.
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