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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Nov 24
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      🤔 hmm interesting thought but I’m not sure I buy this entire;y... they’re definitely overlapping but not co-extensive. I’ve held and worked from a great mental posture while slouched physically, and vice versa.https://twitter.com/m_ashcroft/status/1331321206193201152 …

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      Michael Ashcroft (21/100 YouTube videos) @m_ashcroft
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      Poor physical posture and poor mental posture are actually caused by the same thing, which is a kind of 'checking out' - like when you come back to yourself and ask "where was I just now?" So signs might general pattern of tension or 'holding' (doing). https://twitter.com/m_ashcroft/status/1228424537248817154 …
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    2. Michael Ashcroft (21/100 YouTube videos)‏ @m_ashcroft Nov 24
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      I'm curious, what's your experience of a good mental posture?

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    3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Nov 24
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      it's easier to detect shifts than to characterize them, for example, going from whining/complaining about an unexpected shitty thing I have to deal with to just deciding to deal with it. That one would kinda fit your thesis. Usually physical posture changes follow.

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    4. Michael Ashcroft (21/100 YouTube videos)‏ @m_ashcroft Nov 24
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      I might frame this as: - in whiny mode, the idea that you might be able to just deal with it is outside your awareness (compressed). You are 'stuck' in whiny mode. - for some reason your awareness expands to include 'just doing it', which then becomes available to you as a choice

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    5. Michael Ashcroft (21/100 YouTube videos)‏ @m_ashcroft Nov 24
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      Physical posture also follows this awareness state. Compressed awareness, e.g. not 'being able to notice' that there is space around you, leads to your body unconsciously shrinking as if to fill the smaller space. These two are the same thing, but manifest differently.

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    6. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Nov 24
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      I think this account leaves out simpler forms of noticing. For example, "whiny" is not hard to notice once you learn early in life what "whiny" sounds like. Even when in bad posture you are aware "I'm being whiny" but sometimes you choose to stop, other times you don't.

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    7. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Nov 24
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      even simpler. Somebody tells you "stop whining" and you decide they're right and... do it. ie, I think mental posture is both easier to program, and can be programmed in more ways than physical posture, and physical posture can follow rather than lead for the right personality.

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    8. Michael Ashcroft (21/100 YouTube videos)‏ @m_ashcroft Nov 24
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      So here I agree actually - certainly for a thinky person (such as yourself), it's probably easier to engage at the level of mental than physical. We're certainly more comfortable interfacing with the mental than the physical, because we've made everything mental.

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Nov 24
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      I'm getting a lot more somatically aware in my middle age out of necessity -- aches and pains and stiffness etc. are more noticeable/less ignorable now, so in a way, I'm only now, at age 46 getting the body awareness that natural athletes, dancers, actors etc probably gain at 16

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        2. Michael Ashcroft (21/100 YouTube videos)‏ @m_ashcroft Nov 24
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          Yeah it's a shame that it takes something going wrong (pain) for us to pay attention to this. I was the same - only got into 'body work' after decades of chronic knee dislocations. Anyway, fun talking to you, and I'll leave the next tweet lightly in case of interest

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        3. Michael Ashcroft (21/100 YouTube videos)‏ @m_ashcroft Nov 24
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          Michael Ashcroft (21/100 YouTube videos) Retweeted Michael Ashcroft (21/100 YouTube videos)

          Next time you notice aches and pains, see also if you notice a kind of habitual response to them. A lot of the time we end up unconsciously 'doing' things that can make the pain stronger. It's fun to notice and explore not doing those things.https://twitter.com/m_ashcroft/status/1261314703969697792?s=20 …

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          Michael Ashcroft (21/100 YouTube videos) @m_ashcroft
          1] A crucial skill in life is learning how not to respond to stimuli. In a minute I'm going to ask you to pick a colour. (Stimulus) . Are you already thinking about colours? (Response). I said "in a minute". Notice, without judgement, how you responded. Let's do it again.
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