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    Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Nov 8
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    Has anyone ever done a systematic study of the laws of engineered systems? Like how we have laws of physics and principles of biology? Thinking stuff like: - they have lots of right angles - they have pure materials - weak fractal structure - symmetries etc

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      2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Nov 8
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        People are misunderstanding. I mean how would you determine that an artifact was engineered rather than natural? Like an alien object? What specific heuristics would you apply? It feels obvious with human ones but making the principles explicit is not easy.

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      3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Nov 8
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        Venkatesh Rao Retweeted Gregory Merchán

        Yep... Superman’s fortress of solitude looks like stalactites and stalagmiteshttps://twitter.com/quodvideo/status/1325673247044759553 …

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        "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rock."—me
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      2. Čhepulis • • •‏ @ingleeshh Nov 8
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        Not sure if i'm understanding you correctly, but let me point you to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRIZ 

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        Based

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        - are more successful the fewer optimistic assumptions they make about their operating environment - are often a reflection of the core personalities involved in their creation

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      2. Evan Driscoll‏ @KeenDisregard Nov 8
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        Buckminster Fuller comes to mind

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        He was prolific. The Montreal sphere is one artifact, and concepts like tensegrity continue to inform new fields like synth-bio, for example. The tendency to do more with less, he called it 'ephemeralization'

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      1.  🏴 - jalil.blackflag.eth‏ @digital_monad Nov 8
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        You mean like statistical mechanics or systems engineering or systems thinking? Not sure what you mean by laws. Many laws are invariants derived from mathematical principles. Systems study is more about emergence and phenomenology that appears than reductivism to invariants.

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      2. Charlie Sanders‏ @CharlieSand3rs Nov 8
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        Wouldn’t that just be...engineering? Like, the field of study?

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      3. Renée Stephen‏ @ReneeStephen Nov 8
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        Engineering design maybe? Mech design principles are a thing, coupled with universal design principles and systems design. "Has it been designed, y/n" may be not formalized except in some PhilSci, bc engineers don't usually examine why the principles apply, just which ones do.

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