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Venkatesh Rao
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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Nov 6
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      Status in an honor culture, ironically, seems to be about how much you can cheat 🤔 The gods are seen to favor you in proportion to how much cheating they let you get away with. This is a big theme in the Mahabharata. 90% of the cheating in it is by the god-favored ‘good guys’.

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    2. GrowWiser‏ @Grow_Wiser Nov 6
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      ...I do think you make a great point and find this stuff fascinating. I generally see it as a problem to be solved rather than a condemnation of honor itself. But Mahabharata did deeply offend my sensibilities when I was first introduced to it, so there is that. 😀

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    3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Nov 6
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      Well you’re strongly deontological plus some virtue iirc. The Mahabharata is unabashedly consequentialist.

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    4. GrowWiser‏ @Grow_Wiser Nov 6
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      I am pretty much on the side of virtue ethics, but I think you are right that I have strong deontological roots. Those damn consequentialists and their epics... 🤮😜

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    5. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Nov 6
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      The defense in Indian epics tends to be interesting: we have to violate the rules to defend them, and intrinsic sense of personal virtue is what justifies it. The most famous verse of the Gita makes exactly that argument. Basically Vishnu incarnates to intervene in moral decay.

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    6. GrowWiser‏ @Grow_Wiser Nov 6
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      Ah, sounds like they are Guardians. I don't have an ethical issue with that.

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Nov 6
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      Yep. I suspect there were no real traders in the Axial Age in the Jacobs commerce syndrome sense. I think that’s really traceable to 1400-1600 and early-modern mercantile cities. Spinoza might have been the first true philosophical trader.

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        2. GrowWiser‏ @Grow_Wiser Nov 6
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          I was thinking about my model related to Jacobs http://www.growwiser.com/files/2014/08/Plurality-of-Absolutes.png … The key is that while the group has an essential and internally consistent moral code, it cannot be defended without breaking it. So Kauravas breaks the moral code for himself, Krishna to guard the group.

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        3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Nov 6
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          Something like that. It’s a form of the attribution error if you think about it: when I do it, I’m defending honor, when they do it they’re succumbing to moral decay

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