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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Nov 6
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      Not really. He was the laughing stock everywhere. You’re confusing media prominence for acceptance.

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    2. Mike Wamungu‏ @MikeWamungu Nov 6
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      Pre-Obama, do you think you had more access/acceptance in rooms than he did?

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    3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Nov 6
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      Obama’s experience is not quite comparable to mine. Black America has a unique relationship to white-centric inner circles because it historically helped define them via opposition. In many cases, Black America has its own “shadow inner circles” that for eg I could never enter.

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    4. Mike Wamungu‏ @MikeWamungu Nov 6
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      Pre-Obama is a time marker in the Trump reception arc here. “he” is Trump. I.e you vs. Trump, insider/outsider, pre ‘07, ‘08

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    5. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Nov 6
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      There was a basic “put the uppity black back in his place” aspect to Trump’s whole arc of course, from birther controversy onwards. In a way he has no identity 9f his own. He’s simply the anti-Obama in every way.

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    6. Mike Wamungu‏ @MikeWamungu Nov 6
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      Yes and prior to that, despite still not being palatable or revered in an awe like way, he was net even at worse, rubbing shoulders w/ Clinton’s, Oprah, Epstein and the like — the “elite”, if you will. Obama era is the inflection point

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    7. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Nov 6
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      Hmm. Not sure. Running shoulders is not a sign of acceptance. Trump is a prop. A picture with him is not a sign of equality. More like a picture with Mickey mouse at Disney. He’s a common type: inserts himself into the optics of narratives without being in the stories.

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    8. Mike Wamungu‏ @MikeWamungu Nov 6
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      That proximity is where we differ I guess. The ability to insert, to be humored even if for a few mins, at that scale, consistently for decades, mean closer to in than out for me. Part of the story, just in volatile fashion. Now, he’s done, of course

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    9. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Nov 6
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      That may be a bias of yours being involved in dance/music/fashion. In LA/music/Hollywood, being part of the optics is basically almost everything. But in most fields it literally doesn’t matter. To the point that true insiders often view it as an annoying distraction/burden.

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    10. Mike Wamungu‏ @MikeWamungu Nov 6
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      Brings us back to how common the rich, white, native = out, vs. non-rich, brown, foreign = in, is. Barring outliers like Trump, former is in 8/10. Leaving room for say, two tokens. Is your point about resentment, the mere existence of those two spots?

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Nov 6
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      You’re I think implicitly analyzing this from the black perspective. Which is a big special case. But I think I’m very common otherwise. A big fraction of educated asians in general have integrated pretty deeply into white inner circles at all levels.

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        2. Mike Wamungu‏ @MikeWamungu Nov 6
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          That phenomenon is glaringly obvious everyday (tech, finance, academia, etc). I guess my question is, how strong is that resentment and by whom (outside of Trump’s poor base) ? Because the persistence/frequency points to some degree of acceptance/white adjacent status

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        3. Mike Wamungu‏ @MikeWamungu Nov 6
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          And what of those (non-white) who are pro-Trump. What’s their driver? (genuinely curious). I.e brown Libertarian/conservative techies et al

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