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Conversational account. For work follow @ribbonfarm, @breaking_smart, @artofgig. Tweets are 90% vacuous views, apathetically held. Mediocritopian. IKEA builder.

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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Oct 21
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      Defining the idea of a “hobby” is surprisingly hard For example you might think low risk is part of it but many hobbies are high risk, like sailing. More so than dangerous professions. Or low impact. Many of the biggest inventions came from hobbyist tinkering.

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    2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Oct 21
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      The best I have so far is: an activity pursued with surplus time and resources, inoculated from considerations of practical returns.

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    3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Oct 21
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      Venkatesh Rao Retweeted Ritwik Priya

      A lot of hobbyists spend ruinous amounts on hobbies, to the detriment of arguably more important things like say health or marriage or kids’ needs. So I don’t know if ex-ante low-stakes is correct. 🤔https://twitter.com/ritwik_priya/status/1319053634437525505 …

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      Ritwik Priya @ritwik_priya
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      ex-ante low stakes, reward wise.
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    4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Oct 21
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      Venkatesh Rao Retweeted Joel D  🕯 🦴

      You also do other things in your leisure time, such as spend time with friends/family, watch movies, work on startups, take vacations... so leisure is necessary but not sufficient.https://twitter.com/joeld/status/1319054461764075522 …

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      Joel D  🕯 🦴 @joeld
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      I always thought the distinction was just that it’s something you do in your leisure time.
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    5. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Oct 21
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      Venkatesh Rao Retweeted mtobi

      Hmm. This is an intriguing line of thought and I think on to something. Though hobbyist communities can have status contests too, they are easily avoided. You generally don’t need a community to pursue most hobbies.https://twitter.com/mt0bi/status/1319054607067303947 …

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      mtobi @mt0bi
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      First snap thought is hobbies don't seem to affect your social status. They aren't risky in a way that success/failure isn't tied to others perception of you.
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    6. Kelly Digges‏ @kellydigges Oct 21
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      This doesn't sound right to me. Golf is a hobby, right? And golf is extremely tied to social status. Hell, I once declined to join a World of Warcraft guild with new game-industry co-workers because I was worried that poor performance would embarrass me and impact my status.

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Oct 21
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      Golf is pursued as a hobby by people of a certain class, but typically not to gain status. If it is, then it’s closer to business networking or signaling. Intent matters in distinguishing hobbies I think.

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        1. Kelly Digges‏ @kellydigges Oct 21
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          That seems very difficult to adjudicate and likely to result in counterintuitive answers as far as "is X a hobby." But it seems like you're trying to understand hobbyism as a phenomenon, so maybe that's OK.

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