Philosophical interestingness ranking of sci-fi universes (in terms of meaningfulness, complexity, intelligibility...): 12. Star Wars 11. MCU 10. Doctor Who 9. Dune 8. Star Trek 7. Foundation 6. Deepness in the Sky 5. Hainish 4. Schismatrix 3. Rick & Morty 2. HHG 1. Culture
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I think I like 2nd order worlds that subvert first-order ones. Like Dune is too primal-archetypal to be interesting. But the interesting ones need them to have something to subvert. Dune parody references are more interesting than Dune itself.
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Dune is 14yo profound
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No one who has read dune messiah would rank dune universe high. Original suggests deep and complex worldbuilding but messiah fails to deliver on the promise.
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