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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Oct 5
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      How would you characterize Muskian futures in ideological terms? (Mars colonization, aggressive climate action, lots of sci-fi visions)? It's neither the basic SV neowhig libertarian future, nor the basic NYT-op-ed progressive future. Nor is it Thiel-Trump reactionary.

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    2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Oct 5
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      It sort of breaks the determinate/indeterminate optimism divide. The anchor pieces are determinate, but the broader sensibility is indeterminate. It is "approach problems from first principles with an element of wacky imagination"

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    3. Somatic Historian‏ @ScottParkCO Oct 5
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      It is none of those things, it is just fun-centric. When life offers you the choice between what is right and what is easy, choose the thing which is most fun. He thinks it is funny to manipulate ideology in exchange for building rockets.

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Oct 5
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      This sounds pretty wrong to me. There's definitely a strong sense of fun, but there is also a strong sense of choosing to do the right thing and attacking for eg. climate change. You may not agree with their ideas, but that doesn't mean they are insincere in their own terms.

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        2. Somatic Historian‏ @ScottParkCO Oct 5
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          But there is a test for this. Do electric cars and rocket ships lower CO2 and/or decrease Mining Pollution? Or are they just very fast and cool looking? (Obviously the fun thing could also be right, but that is a boring answer, so let's push the eject button & see what happens.)

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          Not debating this with you (I work in sustainability and have definite well-formed opinions on such questions)... just pointing out that you're really just critically modeling an ideology you don't like rather than characterizing it on its own terms.

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