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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Oct 5
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      How would you characterize Muskian futures in ideological terms? (Mars colonization, aggressive climate action, lots of sci-fi visions)? It's neither the basic SV neowhig libertarian future, nor the basic NYT-op-ed progressive future. Nor is it Thiel-Trump reactionary.

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    2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Oct 5
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      It sort of breaks the determinate/indeterminate optimism divide. The anchor pieces are determinate, but the broader sensibility is indeterminate. It is "approach problems from first principles with an element of wacky imagination"

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Oct 5
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      I'd call it accelerationism except it lacks the attendant anxious mood. Though it has a lot of momentum, it lacks a visibly anxious sense of reactive urgency/race against time. There's something almost calming about it. Like it's a high-speed ASMR future.

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        1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Oct 5
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          I think I'm guilty of not taking it seriously enough in the past because even though I'm a fan of it, it always felt like a cartoon future. I'm a fan of Muskism the way I'm a fan of Rick and Morty.

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        1. Arpit Gupta‏ @arpitrage Oct 5
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          Does the “humans need to become a multi-planetary species, to insure against planetary destruction” add a bit of anxiety?

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        2. kennedy collins‏ @kennedycollins Oct 5
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          It feels like the hardware version of the SV platform/ecosystem play. Have a vision, create the pieces in a way that could support that vision, but don't create the pieces so narrowly that they couldn't also create many other valuable futures.

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        3. kennedy collins‏ @kennedycollins Oct 5
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          I might actually describe it as indefinite-optimistic futurism.

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        1. Ben Reinhardt‏ @Ben_Reinhardt Oct 5
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          To riff: The other reason it's not accelerationism is because it has some distinct, if nebulous goals. Acceleration is an instrumental instead of an intrinsic value.

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        1. Corn Woman  🌽‏ @WomanCorn Oct 5
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          Wholesome Accelerationism.

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        1. Tor Nelson‏ @ecceplusultra Oct 5
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          I'm not sure that a different mood would be very meaningful, but is there a difference in terms of what seems practical between the two?

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