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    Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Oct 1
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    Venkatesh Rao Retweeted Keerthik Sasidharan

    Hmm. Somehow deepfake tech doesn’t worry me. Photography and the wysiwyg conditioning around images is only 150 years old. Before that paintings were obviously a fiction genre. We’ll easily de-condition. This is just an uninvention of a young invention.https://twitter.com/KS1729/status/1311858795627376646 …

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    Keerthik SasidharanVerified account @KS1729
    Deepfake Putin is here to warn Americans about their self-inflicted doom | AI-generated synthetic media is being used in a political ad campaign—not to disrupt the election, but to save it. https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/09/29/1009098/ai-deepfake-putin-kim-jong-un-us-election/ … pic.twitter.com/WxxTKki4SD
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      2. James Rosen-Birch  🛸 🔮 🛠‏ @provisionalidea Oct 1
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        This looks like the playstation version of a live action movie

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      3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Oct 1
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        For now. It’ll get indistinguishable soon.

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      1. Adolf Richter Brill  🐮‏ @typhoonjim Oct 1
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        The issue with deepfakes is not that things will be faked: it is that they will be the excuse to explain away real things that someone does not like.

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      2. lw‏ @lw208xx Oct 1
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        Strongly disagree with this sentiment. IMO many of the gains in civil rights of the last 20 years in the US and elsewhere are due to cheap ubiquitous cameras. Rodney King was 1991. Sabrina Harman's camera at Abu Ghraib, no film to develop there. Immoral technology to make.

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      3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Oct 1
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        Good point, but I’m betting a mix of cryptographic verification and forensics will take care of special cases like that. Arms race.

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      1. prerat‏ @prerationalist Oct 1
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        already we're used to the existence of convincing 4K video with people flying around, shooting lasers from their eyes probably many people don't know the exact line of what is possible with VFX today, so might even assume deepfakes are conventional VFX (or "photoshopped!")

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      1. Matthew McNaughton‏ @mattmcnaughton Oct 1
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        Everyone will know what is fake vs. real but pretend not to, just as we do now with news as it does or doesn't serve our interests.

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      1. Keerthik Sasidharan‏Verified account @KS1729 Oct 1
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        No technology that destabilizes previously held stable & inviolable norms will not fail to leave societies in tumult. See Benedict Anderson’s ‘Imagined Communities’. In our age, for most average voters, videos are final proof of truth. Any deconditioning needs 2-3 generations.

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        Banana Fiend Retweeted thaddeus e. grugq

        https://twitter.com/thegrugq/status/1259443441794080769 …

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        thaddeus e. grugq @thegrugq
        I’ve been saying deepfakes are over rated for years now. It’s clear that no one is using them for disinformation, and that’s because they don’t solve any problems for disinformation campaigns. Forgeries aren’t the foundation of disinformation, they’re a spice to be used sparingly https://twitter.com/nprpolitics/status/1258425128905510913 …
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