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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Sep 20
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      Rewatching Matrix Revolutions. Realizing something has always bothered me. The squid-like machines move like they’re underwater rather than in the air. They’re in underground air but aren’t underwater. But dynamics look lighter-than-medium. Avengers I has the same problem.

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    2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Sep 20
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      I’m not sure of my details, but most marine animals are either neutrally buoyant are they? I imagine the air-breathing mammals and birds like whales and penguins do some buoyancy regulation? Even if they’re heavier than water they’re not THAT much heavier.

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    3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Sep 20
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      Anti-gravity is a fair point, but then why are they “swimming” tentacularly for propulsion? Even underwater thrust+control is more efficient. In air, it’s a lousy way to move. It just doesn’t look right. https://t.co/Dez9mke923 

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    4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Sep 20
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      These are the things I’m talking about. No matter whether it’s EM levitation or antigravity, the form factor and morphology is off for a heavier than air machine in the air. There’s a reason no birds look like squids.https://robotsupremacy.fandom.com/wiki/Sentinel_(The_Matrix) …

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Sep 20
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      Here’s the Avengers Leviathan. Even worse. Nothing this big should move through the air like this. Clearly it’s got anti-gravity and propulsion. The sinuous serpent-like motion has no possible function. Snakes move like this for a reason that doesn’t applyhttps://marvel-movies.fandom.com/wiki/Leviathans 

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        2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Sep 20
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          Oddly, atmospheric flight designs in spacecraft don’t bother me as much. Partly because many sci-fi spacecraft also enter the atmosphere, like the space shuttle. Partly because even in vacuum, direction of motion affects things. Partly because humans inside add constraints.

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        3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Sep 20
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          But physics regimes differences could be milked for plot points much more than they are. Like Ender using the arbitrariness of “down” in space to create tactical advantage, because everybody is oriented on “doorframe is vertical”

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        4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Sep 20
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          Matrix Revolutions is so much worse than the rest of the trilogy that it’s like it was made by Michael Bay

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        5. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Sep 20
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          Scenes inside the matrix are generally better in all 3. They explicitly play with the “the characters know this is made up physics within a physics engine that you can bend/twist” premise. They flip between magical action and mundane physics as a function of mental state.

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        6. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Sep 20
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          The Neo/Agent climactic battle is an operatic setpiece that works that way. They cycle among magic fantasy physics, superhero physics, video game physics, stylized martial arts physics, and real physics. At least 3-4 kinds of inertia in evidence.

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        1. structurally not redeemable‏ @taxila14 Sep 20
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          Solo:A Star Wars Story has the same deal. A gigantic space squid 👀pic.twitter.com/WJjjB3Hn3X

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        1. Artem Litvinovich‏ @theartlav Sep 20
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          So, you haven't even considered the idea that aliens might have designers as well, and these designers need to be paid for something.

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        1. Anand Kumar‏ @anandoff Sep 20
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          💯 Issue is that those motions work in water, where they push against something ~as dense as the octopus, but in air, imply the creatures have the density of... air

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        1. Giridhur Sriraman‏ @irishdrug1511 Sep 20
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          The serpent like motion & behaviour is probably just for the scares. Remember reading somewhere about how many mammals can spot snakes thanks to a gene.

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        2. Ronen▼.com‏ @RonenV Sep 22
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          They move that way because it's cool. The fact that the monsters from 2 of the biggest action movies ever are "air versions of sea creatures", means, if anything, that it should be done more, as it's probably tapping into something

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          "the jobs to be done" of special effects!!

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