It's also the core to boydian thought if you squint a bit... in destruction and creation he proposes something in that spiritpic.twitter.com/3TuGKBgLwG
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It's also the core to boydian thought if you squint a bit... in destruction and creation he proposes something in that spiritpic.twitter.com/3TuGKBgLwG
Can you point me to a specific statement of the principle in Bateson or Beer? I'm not familiar with that lit beyond Wikipedia level gloss
hmm it's a fair point but in Beer it's so embedded I'm not sure. I'm fond of this from Barry Clemson, 1984 (Cybernetics: A New Management Tool) - Barry was one of Stafford's studentspic.twitter.com/w0l680hGT3
I wasn't making a point, just asking for a pointer :D I literally don't know this literature well enough to know if there's a version of this idea in there
no, I just meant fair question - and/but so deeply embedded I'm not sure I can easily pull it out. It's in the concept of homeostasis - see nice definition here https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi2s.anu.edu.au%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F10%2Fcybernetic_glossary.pdf … (from Stafford's student and life partner Allenna Leonard)
I mean, there's a whole body of work in Beer called variety engineering, and it's all founded on Ashby's Requisite Variety and the Conant-Ashby Good Regulatory Theorem (every good regulator must be a model of the system it controls)...
...to achieve regulation, you have to match your variety to that of the environment. Your choices are: change your environment, change your environment (sic), increase your variety capability, or attenuate the variety of the environment(all this is by transduction of information)
...based on Shannon's information theory. Is this helpful/making sense?
actually, doh! Best quote from Beer - the First Principle of Organization: "Managerial, operational, and environmental varieties, diffusing through an institutional system, tend to equate; they should be /designed/ to do so with minimal damage to people and to cost"
All useful context for the general space of ideas... I'll likely end up crafting my own precise statement though
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