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    Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jul 28
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    Funny how evolution doesn't really learn things, modulo some epigenetics at the margins, even though we think of it as a kind of learning process. It just kills off those who don't happen to know things. Suggests almost all learning is worthless past one lifetime.

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      1. Jernau Morat Gurgeh‏ @himura_k3nshin Jul 28
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        The learning is discarding what's useless.

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      1. Fat Loux‏ @rudeloux Jul 28
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        I don't see what it suggests that. Culture is the product of multigenerational learning.

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      1. NOLAN GRAY‏ @nolangray_ Jul 28
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        I think that’s why we developed writing. Recording shifts power through time. Similar to how laws move power away from biology and distributes uniquely. Ie fat cops with guns can kill the biologically superior, younger, stronger. We’re re negotiating this currently

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      1. Sadeq Ali‏ @sahilz79 Jul 28
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        Much like most AI today - brute force/compute driven

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      1. Donny_ Dude‏ @_Donny_Dude Jul 28
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        I think of this as analogous to brains: the individual neurons don't really learn things, but the whole mind/brain system does.

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      1. frog  🐸‏ @finetreepine Jul 28
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        Do you mean like stuff (life+other stuff) as a whole doesn't learn or that the evolutionary process doesn't improve? Also what do you mean by evolution, are you including sexual selection as a part of evolution. If so then the mechanism of evolution itself has evolved.

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      1. Andrew‏ @QuinPlaton Jul 28
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        what could learning things be but the survival of that which doesn't die? via negativa: knowledge as remembering, positivism: knowledge as accumulation

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      1. gm‏ @pHollda Jul 28
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        gm Retweeted gm

        https://twitter.com/pHollda/status/1284726806088691713?s=20 …

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        Seems to me that people talk about evolution as teleological to avoid talking about the consistent and brutal deaths of non-survivors, which was usually the default event.
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      1. Basil Marte‏ @BasilMarte Jul 28
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        Evolution *evaluates* particular gene sequences by instantiating organisms. Then it updates its current search position (the composition of the gene pool) based on the result. To update organisms mid-life, it would either need gradients (lol ATCG) or sub-eval (???).

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