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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jul 4
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      While there are a million product ideas in this observation, that’s not where the action is, and I’m not particularly interested in imagining or building “SAP for free agents.” A startup corporation to build a product to unbundle the corporation would be kinda ironic.

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    2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jul 4
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      The real action is in figuring out, and validating ways to work in the combinatorial space of free agents. Cobbled-together tools are fine for early experiments. The key is to focus on the content of gig work first, and tools to sustain it second.

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    3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jul 4
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      If you start with the tools you’ll simply reinvent a commodity labor market like upwork, or rhapsodize about spherical blockchains in a vaccum we can’t actually use to work or collaborate. To actually unbundle the corporation with free agency you have to work in new patterns.

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    4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jul 4
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      I’ve been writing thinking, and even building products for free agent work for over a decade. Even have a patent for multilevel recursive auction collaborative marketplaces, which my team actually built and deployed internally at Xerox 10 years ago 😎 https://patents.google.com/patent/US8086501?oq=marketplaces+venkatesh+rao …

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    5. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jul 4
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      But only now have both the technologies and the free-agent sector matured to the point where you can build out the infrastructure for real. Back then I think I was too early. It was pre-blockchain, pre- Stripe, pre-Freshbooks, pre most of the tools in the “passion economy” sector

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    6. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jul 4
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      The ideas back then were *really* primitive. Mturk seemed like the bleeding edge. Read books like Tom Malone’s Future of Work (inspiration for elance which eventually got absorbed into upwork) and Dan Pink’s Free Agent Nation for a historical view. A lot has changed since 2010.

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    7. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jul 4
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      It’s time for a free-agency renaissance. The pioneer days are over. There’s no need to larp a dangerously and unnecessarily precarious cowboy economy. Time to do some settling and town planning.

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    8. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jul 4
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      Venkatesh Rao Retweeted Cedric Charly

      No this is not Metcalfe’s law (network effect). That’s O(n^2). It’s not even Reed’s law (powerset effect), which is O(2^n). It is Reed’s law *as a lower bound* on possibilities https://twitter.com/cedricgc/status/1279511408317591552?s=21 …https://twitter.com/cedricgc/status/1279511408317591552 …

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      Is this a restatement of Metcalfe's law or is there some substantial nuance to this specific application I am missing?
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    9. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jul 4
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      I once actually tried to compute a formula for the size of this space in closed form and failed. If somebody wants, it is *at least* the set of all possible graphs, directed and undirected, defined on every component of every partition of every subset of the universal set.

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    10. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jul 4
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      Informally, it is the “number of ways n people can organize into teams” (with only full membership; fractional head counts make thid even bigger). The space of “organizations” is so huge and high dimensional, the part of it we occupy is barely a degenerate crumpled corner.

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jul 4
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      Note on navigating the space. You can't just enumerate and brute force search it for good configs, it is too big.https://twitter.com/vgr/status/1279520092489781248 …

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      Venkatesh Rao @vgr
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      Yep, you need good ways to navigate it in emergent ways, but the path dependent degeneracy configurations we know are not necessarily the best ones for the present environment. In some work I did, I used reinforcement learning to identify good configs from work history.
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        2.  🏴 - jalil.blackflag.eth‏ @digital_monad Jul 4
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          Have you looked at Social Money? I keep saying YakCoin should be an ERC20 because it's necessary to monetize a network and get high levels of coordination. Many people including myself have already minted personal ERC20s.

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          Bitcoin now has the coordination of millions of people with almost no central marketing, no central leadership. The scaling of coordination solution is literally right in front of you. This problem is already solved.

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