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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jun 7
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      Kinda curious how “capitalism” as an ideal only exists in the heads of people opposed to it. The term points to a series of historic pseudo-equilibrium conditions that are unified only by being paths of least coordination resistance through their eras.

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    2. mtraven‏ @mtraven Jun 7
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      Um what?https://aynrand.org/novels/capitalism-the-unknown-ideal/ …

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    3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jun 7
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      Seriously? You think Ayn Rand = capitalism? AynRandism is a marginal religion aspiring to take over capitalism. It may have a few big believers like Thiel or Koch, but 90% of revealed capitalists have never heard of her, while 100% of Christians for eg have heard of the Bible.

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    4. mtraven‏ @mtraven Jun 7
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      our OT was about "capitalism as an ideal". Rand might have little to do with the operations of real capitalism, but functions as an important point of ideology, with "big believers" including Alan Greenspan. Its driven the propaganda mills for years.

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    5. mtraven‏ @mtraven Jun 7
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      eghttps://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/apr/10/new-age-ayn-rand-conquered-trump-white-house-silicon-valley …

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jun 7
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      This is like claiming Ayn Rand is to capitalism as Jesus or Martin Luther are to Christianity or Marx, Lenin, or Mao to communism. It simply isn’t true. There is an impedance mismatch between the scale, scope and contents of the thing being pointed to by the term versus Randism

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        1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jun 7
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          This is like equating Christianity to a particular powerful but minority church like LDS, but without there being any larger ideological contours like belief in resurrection or the holiness of the Bible that are better overall ideological signifiers of all Christianity

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        2. mtraven‏ @mtraven Jun 7
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          I didn't say Ayn Rand founded capitalism or is central to it; I said that she provided a form of capitalist idealism that has been greatly useful to ideologues of capitalism, which is absolutely true.

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          Maybe I don't understand what you are driving at. Let me try to paraphrase:

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        1. zeta mask yo‏ @mormo_music Jun 8
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          yeah you're moving the goalposts here. Rand (and many others, including me) falsify the claim in your OP.pic.twitter.com/TPz5dRpW9w

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