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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jun 2
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      I mean, it's not as if guns are a great mystery to the rest of the world. They all have their professional military/police. Most also have serious terrorist/secessionist movements running actual guerrilla wars (not theoretical) with AK-47s. All have private gun culture too.

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    2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jun 2
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      Most countries also have their traditional martial classes with some sort of pride/honor culture that makes them more inclined to private gun ownership (legal or illegal). Criminal classes and tough-guy student groups have guns. There's paramilitaries and equivalents of ROTC.

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    3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jun 2
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      Plenty of countries have mandatory military service and all adults have firearm literacy -- more than most Americans. Terror-ridden countries like Pakistan have entire cottage industries making AK-47s in villages. So... what's unique about US gun culture is its religiosity.

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    4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jun 2
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      I guess this is why I'm meh on US gun culture and besides being aware of the weird risks (mass shootings, possibility that random minor conflict could involve guns), I just can't take the *culture* seriously, even though guns are serious.

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    5. Nick Pinkston  🌐‏ @NickPinkston Jun 2
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      As someone who grew up deep in gun culture, I still find it hard to escape mentally. I think your take is pretty close to my own with the exception that I was raised in it and still "observe" the tradition.

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    6. Nick Pinkston  🌐‏ @NickPinkston Jun 2
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      Interestingly, I've escaped from pretty much every other aspect of my traditional upbringing: religion, NeoCon ideology, suspicion of alt cultures/norms, etc., but the gun thing still stays with me.

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    7. Nick Pinkston  🌐‏ @NickPinkston Jun 2
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      I found myself at an anti-gun group one time, and I was like "I'm probably the only here who owns an AR-15" and went on to describe the actual views of pro-gun people but translated into a US liberal language.

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    8. Nick Pinkston  🌐‏ @NickPinkston Jun 2
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      When I get down to it, I think it's fully a cultural tell like you're comparing to India/cows. Maybe it's like agnostics who still pray sometimes, I still like knowing that I have personal defensive capability.

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    9. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jun 2
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      Exactly. Similarly I've escaped pretty much every other aspect of Indian culture except vegetarianism, and that behavior I've moved to an alternative basis of simply being concerned about animal welfare, rather than uncritical acceptance of religious-meat-taboo family background.

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    10. Nick Pinkston  🌐‏ @NickPinkston Jun 2
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      Yea totally. That's a good transformation. It's funny because my only equivalent is telling anti-gun people how to regulate guns without triggering the gun culture, but it's likely that time/demographics alone will achieve that end before we convince the gun folks.

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jun 2
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      That's generally how these things work. Like being gay went from being beyond the pale to basically "yeah whatever" except for the remaining religious fundamentalists who actually care (and those who pretend to care to pander to them). Generational effect.

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          Cars are a good other example. I only knew how to drive stick when I came here and had to learn automatic. Then I forgot stick. Then after uber and moving to urban core I basically stopped driving unless I have to... don't enjoy it. Gen Z doesn't even want to get licenses.

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        3. Nick Pinkston  🌐‏ @NickPinkston Jun 2
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          Yea, it's funny. In some ways I feel innovative or even avant-garde, and other ways it's like "dude you're a cis straight white dude who does manufacturing companies and still likes neoliberal globalism" Too retro?

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