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Thinking more of philosophy in a lay/informal sense, not academic. I don’t regard either as particularly philosophical, though they are leaders of knowledge workers for sure. And pg has in particular repudiated philosophy explicitly.
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This goes well with the stereotype of hyper-successful leaders in any field (celebs, billionaires, groundbreaking scholars) to become or surround themselves with gurus. also explains subtle contempt @ avg people who do same thing? it implies one has hit their max potential
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