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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Apr 14
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      Bernie’s failures modulo DNC shennanigans, is really a failure of his movement rather than a personal failure of leadership. The movement could not gather as much mass as it needed. It thought its core grievances were more widely shared than they were.

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Apr 14
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      I can’t put a finger on it but hard core Bernie supporters seemed to assume like 2.5x political legitimacy than they actually had, in terms of the number of people they could be considered as speaking for. Like 20% presumed to be 51%.

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        2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Apr 14
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          There was an assumed consensus in how they spoke to everybody else who self-classifies left of center. “Of course you agree with us about everything otherwise you’d be for the corrupt party amirite?” attitude I found grating. It’s possible to dislike the party AND be center-left.

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        3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Apr 14
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          A weakness of the Bernie mob vs Trump mob was grievances focused on future rather than the past. “You’ve destroyed our future” from a 20-year-old seems like premature eager embrace of victimhood. “You destroyed our life in the last 25 years” from a 55 year old seems more real.

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        4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Apr 14
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          Even if true, there’s a temptation among older people (like me, Warren guy) to wonder... how can you declare failure/foreclosed future before even trying. Perhaps unfair but that was my gut response.

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        2. christina dunbar hyphen hester‏ @scrivenix Apr 14
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          little bit of slippage here? bernie support was high among ppl who often don’t vote.https://theintercept.com/2020/04/09/nonvoters-are-not-privileged-they-are-largely-lower-income-non-white-and-dissatisfied-with-the-two-parties/ …

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        3. christina dunbar hyphen hester‏ @scrivenix Apr 14
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          younger ppl for example supported bernie by v large margin. but they often don’t vote in same proportion as boomers

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          Recently heard Jane Mcalevey talk about the difference between organizing (gaining commitment to a platform and movement, and trust in leader/group) vs mobilizing (getting people to take action, like vote). May be some lessons for them in there as well.https://bit.ly/2REu6uw 

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        1. Renee DiResta‏Verified account @noUpside Apr 14
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          Bespoke reality/consistently hugely positive online reinforcement?

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        2. Brian Duffy‏ @brianduffytweet Apr 14
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          a lot of room in that % spread for working class people in Bernie’s coalition who do grocery budgeting down to the pennies, work multiple service jobs, rely on buses, have kids and elders to take care of, and oops specifically their polling places were closed/had 4 hour lines

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          the fact that *Election Day* is a *regular working day* is a blatant injustice and a deliberate act of class warfare on the part of Wall/K Street

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        2. Zach Rose‏ @djairportpanini Apr 14
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          I can see that. I think a lot of us assume that 1.5x exists, does not vote, and would vote if they could only see that Sanders platform really represented their interests. It takes incredible momentum to get that message out there.

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          In that worldview, the framing of Bernie as “unrealistic” by his Democratic opponents represents an abandonment of those non-voters. It also, unfairly or not, makes those critics look ideologically and morally weak for representing the compromise.

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