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This is my conversational account. For my work follow @ribbonfarm, @breaking_smart, @artofgig. Tweets are 90% vacuous views, apathetically held. Mediocritopian.

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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Apr 13
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      There’s people who seem to feel humiliated by having to reveal that they learned something they. Ie they feel humiliated to say “I learned this” not just “I don’t know” When they do learn something they go to great lengths to pretend they never didn’t know it 🤔

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    2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Apr 13
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      Venkatesh Rao Retweeted Carl T. Bergstrom

      Honor culture epistemology is the exact opposite of science. You lose credibility for learning things. “How dare you suggest I know something today I didn’t know last week?” https://twitter.com/ct_bergstrom/status/1249856079749451776?s=21 …https://twitter.com/CT_Bergstrom/status/1249856079749451776 …

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      Carl T. BergstromVerified account @CT_Bergstrom
      Then someone jumps in and accuses them of hypocrisy or incompetence. "You just said probably X, but two weeks ago you said probably not X. You're a fraud, just like all of you experts!"
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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Apr 13
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      As usual Trump is Exhibit A. “Everything I need to know about science I learned in my genes by having an uncle who was an MIT professor”

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        2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Apr 13
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          My suspicion is that it has to do with the credibility of honor-based power a la homo ludens. In an honor society, power correlates to being seen as blessed by the gods for victory. “There’s no use opposing me because the heavens are aligned behind me, knowledge is irrelevant.”

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        3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Apr 13
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          To reveal a real learning curve with evidence of failures is to admit you’re not the chosen one. The honor society learning curve is trials of chosen-ness, and the Straussian presence of an already-blessed teacher/mentor to sign off on having passed with signs of divine grace.

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        4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Apr 13
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          Chosen by the gods means you’re going to ace the learning curve eventually in all possible worlds. There are none in which you didn’t make it. And most importantly, your learning is in the distant past, and your teacher is old or dead and sainted, so no direct competition.

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        5. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Apr 13
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          I don’t like this framework but it’s the best I can teach for right now. There’s something I’m missing here... ignorance and power paradox of some sort

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        6. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Apr 13
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          Venkatesh Rao Retweeted Venkatesh Rao

          Ah! key is to secretly get to god-like optics and erase your learning human past. The gods by definition are changeless because they have no need to learn. If you can sustain a changeless image, you get treated as a god. The gods chose you to *join them*https://twitter.com/vgr/status/1249887187807531009?s=21 …

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          In a way being an awful honor society person is our default state. It takes facing you to vast arbitrariness of the universe to actually enjoy learning things without feeling like you’re losing face. In a vast, arbitrary universe nobody is looking at you. https://twitter.com/vgr/status/1249868311757639681?s=21 …
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        2. Renee DiResta‏Verified account @noUpside Apr 13
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          Yes. Similar to mind-changing reframed as incompetence or craven political expediency. “flip-flopper”, 2004, maybe started this?

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        3. Joshua Panici‏ @Jwypsum Apr 14
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          I think the idea of "mind-changing as weakness" comes from how the first tendency of many people is to stand by their beliefs no matter what. Evidence-based thinking and hypothesis reformulation tend to need to be learned and most people don't get the chance to really learn them.

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