there was basically no treatment or cure available for the spanish flu... they only tried to alleviate symptoms. aspirin for fever https://blogs.cdc.gov/publichealthmatters/2018/05/1918-flu/ …
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they did have oxygen and epinephrine though (how does that help pneumonia?)pic.twitter.com/JvstWsIlMN
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the standard stat going around is 80% out of hospital ("mild"), 20% in hospital, 5 % ICU, 2% dead. So somewhere between 5-20% seems likely (working under the assumption that the hospital only helps, which is shaky given nosocomial infections etc)
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so my theory is that with apples to apples comparison, this is actually much worse than the spanish flu
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the only available 'therapy' for the most severe cases is intubation (or if available, ECMO). 50% of these patients still die. So, VERY crude/naive = 2x. It is less clear how many non severe, but critical patients (who are only on oxygen) would die without access to oxy.
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that said, pre-ICU oxygen was the fresh air treatment, see below... I'm not 100% convinced that this is MUCH worse than getting nasal oxygen in a hospital room...
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Worth noting that our modern society has a lot more people who are obese or heart-related comorbidities.
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This is unclear. In part bcs "overweight" has become a politocultural term not a medical term. Look at https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article241523151.html … which sounds bad " 64 percent of coronavirus patients in intensive care units in the United Kingdom were overweight" except, oh, 60% of UK overweight.
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If 60 in 100 are overweight and 60 in 100 land in the ICU, the main conclusion is that one has nothing to do with the other! If overweight were a big factor then much higher than 60 out of 100 in the ICU would be overweight...
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I'm not saying BMI/diabetes etc are irrelevant. I have no idea. I'm simply saying that what I've seen so far on the subject is patently idiotic, and unconvincing. I look forward to eventually reading an analysis that's not idiotic.
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