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    1. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Feb 14
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      Not sure how to approach solving the problem, but a good starting point is, if you have to have a policy that your employees have to act nice in certain ways beyond the natural niceness levels of random pairs of humans, you're creating an invisible dignity deficit

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    2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Feb 14
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      That, or you're somehow hiring exactly the wrong people. Like selecting the naturally rudest sorts of people for waiter jobs. Which is... not smart. Selecting for natural cheery/nice temperament otoh is fine. But demanding 15 pieces of flair means you're doing dignitynomics wrong

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    3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Feb 14
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      And if otoh, your mix of incentives draws only the desperate who will comply with any kind of absurdly dignity assaulting policy, it means you're a predatory business. You're arbitraging baseline levels of misery/desperation and externalizing the costs.

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    4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Feb 14
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      A much more explicit example of this is if your employees have to seek social welfare like food stamps to make ends meet in your full-time job. That's a straight-up subsidy you're taking advantage of. The state keeps 'em breathing, you suck out what life remains in them.

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    5. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Feb 14
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      There's an argument to be made here that this is the main problem with inequality. It is a condition stabilized by an accumulating dignity deficit problem that will blow up in our faces at some point and destroy wealth.

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    6. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Feb 14
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      Now of course, there is such a thing as a reasonable expectation of respect for dignity that can get very unreasonable indeed. Here the US actually has good priors: nobody is any better or worse than anyone else.

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    7. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Feb 14
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      Explicitly classist societies like India have historically had dignity levels and you only have a right to the dignity default of your level. This creates a sclerotic, compartmentalized economy, effectively regulated by dignity boundaries. Economies of scale are lost.

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    8. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Feb 14
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      But a reasonable response here is to let the market handle it. You can choose whatever dignity ideal you like, and jobs will be designed not to knowingly assault or drain your dignity. By not demanding pieces of flair etc.

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    9. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Feb 14
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      But you don't have the right to be employed at your chosen arbitrary dignity level far out of the 3-sigma bounds of humanity. You only have the right not to have it callously assaulted by work that is structurally blind to the fact that you are maintaining a dignity state at all.

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    10. Nanakorobi Yaoki‏ @FrederickLittl3 Feb 14
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      By the same token, those who surrender a basic dignity level for employment have no right to be free from mockery for having done so, however much essentially mercenary professionals insist that they have a right not to be socially identified as whores and pimps.

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      Possibly you could make a case for that, but legitimizing mockery for its own sake (as opposed to as a weapon of the weak to protect their interests) seems... unnecessary. You might as well argue women who commit adultery should be stoned.

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        1. Nanakorobi Yaoki‏ @FrederickLittl3 Feb 14
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          I am arguing precisely for delegitimizing any claim of the dignity-sellers larger than "I made a lot of money."

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