Not going anywhere in particular with this line of thought. I don't think blame and judgment subplots of narrativizing history are either futile or the whole story. Holding people morally accountable for things that are happening is one part of how humans process what to do next.
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I'm reminded of the oddest conversation about vegetarianism I've had, with an Egyptian. Most meat eaters accept moral agency/culpability that might be involved in choosing to eat meat. But this guy's response was "but the Koran tells us to eat everything!" Cracked me up.
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I'm vegetarian leaning vegan where/when I can, but not evangelical about it, and don't try to convert others. Meat eaters who raise the topic with me accept their agency in choosing to eat meat 99% of the time. Denying such agency via appeal to religious duty is...odd
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People who accept their moral agency are generally capable of surprising you. Sufficient, but not necessary condition. This includes you being able to surprise yourself. If you cannot surprise yourself you have an animal sense of yourself. Why is surprisability key here?
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The Internet of Beefs, IoB, is people who can’t be surprised either by themselves or by others. Tell: if you can mock somebody you’re predicting them. If you’re still mad at them it’s because they’re not accepting culpability where you want them to.
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This means even where you and I agree that something has gone wrong rather than as designed by somebody, nobody is accepting responsibility. It’s a “who owns this externality” argument.
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If the only consequences of your actions that you own are predictable ones, and all externalities are attributable to other people’s (predictable and mockable) misguided actions, are you really acknowledging any agency at all?
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Real agency results in 2 kinds of surprise 1. Unexpected material consequences 2. Unexpected responses from others with agency You’re not accepting your own humanity and attendant material and moral agency if you don’t act in ways that generate BOTH kinds of surprise.
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If no unintended consequences are ever the result of what you chose to do, you are viewing your agency like an animal’s. If people never respond to you in surprising ways it means something a bit more complex.
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It is some combination of: a) you’re only pushing their animal buttons b) they’re like you, and only have animal buttons c) you’ve blinded yourself to their surprising responses IoB is b vs b.
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