ok that's def. not a classical definition then but that's fine. do you think that's what most people tag as "pure reason"? do you think that's what most rationalists tag as "pure reason"?
> a real but rare failure mode of rationalists
alternative-explain all the akrasia.
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I wasn't ascribing any valence – "dissociated" is not "better" or "further along." It's a different path. I might say it's an easier path, but hard to say.
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As for whether post-rats are more embodied, it's mixed in my experience, but certainly the key thinkers are liable to be more woke in that way. Rationalists on the other hand are almost always disconnected from their bodies.
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Ok, I'll buy that. I've been trying to get rationalists to go dancing or play soccer for years now, with limited success. But I wouldn't jump from "disembodied" to "autistic and traumatized".
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disembodiment (dissociation) and many autistic (anti-social) traits (See mark zuck) comes from a response to trauma
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I think that this is the valley of bad post-rationality, which makes Eigen the first post-post-rationalist.
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what is bad post-rationality? taking it seriously instead of just shitposting?
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Post-rationality: finding out that what was missing for you in Rationality discourse is X ∈ [trauma/spirituality/embodiment/equanimity/etc].
Bad post-rationality: assuming that every other rationalist's problem is lack of X.
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that’s a very interesting interpretation that I’d never though about before! (both of them)
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That's not quite the historical case, but I like it
Post-rat to me is just , , and friends since around 2013
More like rationality + anthropology
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It's almost entirely banana actually. I stay out of it, and David is stanning metarationality. I briefly toyed with stanning pararationality as my thing but it was too much work.
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Whoops, got that mixed up in my mind. Ok, never mind – joke's on me boys!
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