But there ARE shared reasons for silences, which become known via networks of private conversations. That’s a common silence. But you can’t just assume this based on DMs with like 5 people who are exactly like you. That’s the easiest way to falsely conclude a consensus exists.
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You need high diversity in your *private* conversations to draw robust conclusions about common silences. And the diversity has to be relevant. If you are male and have male friends of all races, and all of them agree with certain sentiments about women, that’s... not robust.
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Privacy and trust are not panaceas for fragile reasoning. They address certain fragiliti4scin public conversation like preference falsification, social desirability bias, and PCness. But not stupidity, ignorance, shared sincere prejudices etc.
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So much conversation has gone underground in last 5 years that now we are far more at risk of bad patterns in underground conversations than in public ones. When someone posts a dumb public take and sparks an outrage cycle on internet of beefs, we all kinda know how to deal now
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Why is threading breaking weirdly on this thread?
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I’m in at least a couple of dozen vaguely overlapping dm conversations that are all underground in part as retreat from culture war... it’s not easy forming coherent mental models of public silences via the Venn diagram of your underground whisper web.
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argh, how do you deal with the social baggage of doing your talking in a place with a high bar for speech? like, the standard for invite-only convos is "I'll only speak if I'm sure I'm right and I know my speech is welcome."
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(this is why I haven't joined sooper seekret channels for the most part. I'd never feel like my stuff was good enough to add if the space had *any* pretensions of being a refuge from the floods of crappy content.)
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You've got it exactly backwards. These channels have *lower* barriers for speech and more forgiving, for certian values of "forgiving", than public channels. You have to self-censor less.
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Ah, by “retreat from culture war” I assumed you meant “avoiding all poorly-thought-out or shallow thoughts on culture”
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