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I think you’re talking past each other here Goddess/feminine spirituality is a sort of self-starter SMB spirituality thing, which is in defiance of orthodoxy I think QC is trying to talk about the “missing market” of the male equivalent heterodoxy
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What QC is asking for is a very improbable niche-within-niche thing where the “unit economics” don’t work. Like 1% of straight guys might be interested in “Masculine Spirituality”, and the framing is so contaminated that barely anybody worth talking to is going to touch it
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wasn't asking for it, think the disparity is interesting and i like these takes on it. i think you're right that the sort of corresponding masculine impulse expresses itself in other ways, no nut november is a legitimately good example
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The thing is, the original (feminine spirituality/goddess stuff) exists largely as an essentialized reaction to very essentialized masculine traditions, so it is a little odd to look for X in a reaction to X.
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Perhaps if you assume X1 and X2 are the same thing. I'm past the point of needing it now, but younger me was starving for some X1 action. X2 is a moral desert. But we don't have any good X1, just perpetual complaint that X2 is already ours and "to our benefit".
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I suspect -- as social mores around "men's work" disintegrate even further -- someone will start a genre to fill the void. No fucking clue what it'll look like, and I'm bad enough at "male" that I have no confidence I could figure it out.(But whoever does is gonna make bank.)
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The emerging reality is: fitness for different kinds of work has become increasingly uncorrelated to gender thanks to automation. And work has always been the primary sorting variable, so that causes troubling. If we ever invent artificial wombs, gender will collapse entire.y.
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It will collapse further as a social construct. It's already entering the realm of art, like bread-making has for most American households. Witness the woke parade of genders, and the trad and red-pill reactions. All are gender-as-performance, rather than -as-sortable-essence.
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A deeper driver is that people need to feel seen as complete and coherent identity bundles. We aren’t used to inhabiting unbundled, fragmentary social identities. But it’s possible. Hedgehog/fox applied to the self. Those who need to be One Big Thing instead of many little things
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I thought there would be a fork to our Culture War. Exploring "If gender is fluid----self is fluid----is self real----mind creates self----mind as tool? Most thought is dicey at best?" But nope. Back to cycle.
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