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    1. Olaf‏ @QiaochuYuan Jan 11
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      four shelves for "goddess / feminine spirituality" any guesses how many there are for "god / masculine spirituality" lolpic.twitter.com/7HfvcJpvwU

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    2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jan 11
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      Umm. That’s every traditional religious book and the entirety of most organized religious institutions and theology schools/seminaries. It’s hardly underrepresented.

      3 replies 0 retweets 25 likes
    3. visa is working on his ebook‏ @visakanv Jan 12
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      I think you’re talking past each other here Goddess/feminine spirituality is a sort of self-starter SMB spirituality thing, which is in defiance of orthodoxy I think QC is trying to talk about the “missing market” of the male equivalent heterodoxy

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    4. visa is working on his ebook‏ @visakanv Jan 12
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      visa is working on his ebook Retweeted a guy

      In practice, dudes do have their small/localised forms of communion, ritual, meaning - podcasts, video games, sports, alcohol, suits, beards, etc. List goes on. Sometimes dudes will do this sort of thing in a half-ironic way: https://twitter.com/apiecebyguy/status/1192621098116042752?s=21 …https://twitter.com/apiecebyguy/status/1192621098116042752 …

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    5. visa is working on his ebook‏ @visakanv Jan 12
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      What QC is asking for is a very improbable niche-within-niche thing where the “unit economics” don’t work. Like 1% of straight guys might be interested in “Masculine Spirituality”, and the framing is so contaminated that barely anybody worth talking to is going to touch it

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    6. Olaf‏ @QiaochuYuan Jan 12
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      wasn't asking for it, think the disparity is interesting and i like these takes on it. i think you're right that the sort of corresponding masculine impulse expresses itself in other ways, no nut november is a legitimately good example

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    7. visa is working on his ebook‏ @visakanv Jan 12
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      Ah yeah- Asking *about* / pointing out the absence of

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jan 12
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      The thing is, the original (feminine spirituality/goddess stuff) exists largely as an essentialized reaction to very essentialized masculine traditions, so it is a little odd to look for X in a reaction to X.

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        2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jan 12
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          Even religions with more foundational accommodation of masculine/feminine aspects of being in practice run as patriarchies. Like Hinduism has the purusa/prakriti dichotomy and China has yin/yang. Yet the priests of goddess cults like Kali tend to be men.

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        3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr Jan 12
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          So women have tended to form heterodox practices that get branded as more “spiritual” precisely *because* they are denied direct participation in the institutions of religion. Men tended not to because they could just participate in the real thing.

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        2. Nathaniel Eliot‏ @temujin9 Jan 12
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          Perhaps if you assume X1 and X2 are the same thing. I'm past the point of needing it now, but younger me was starving for some X1 action. X2 is a moral desert. But we don't have any good X1, just perpetual complaint that X2 is already ours and "to our benefit".

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        3. Nathaniel Eliot‏ @temujin9 Jan 12
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          I suspect -- as social mores around "men's work" disintegrate even further -- someone will start a genre to fill the void. No fucking clue what it'll look like, and I'm bad enough at "male" that I have no confidence I could figure it out.(But whoever does is gonna make bank.)

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