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1. Johnny Von Neumann isn't nearly as deep a genius as people seem to think.
If he was, he wouldn't have said bullshit like this
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Respectfully, you probably don't know how much Von Neumann more or less LIFTED from better engineers and scientists just by hanging around and being first to publish.
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Respectfully, I'm happy to have a continuing conversation with you if and only if you can tell me if you've researched this domain - and the story of Von Neumann - as much as I have.
Here's what I've read thus far.
computingthehumanexperience.com/books/
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I shall await your reply.
Certainly you've read von Neuman's biographies by Heims, Aspray, and Macrae. How about Broy and Denert's work? Oh, what do you think about the unpublished manuscript by his brother, Nicholas? I'm sure you've read that, right?
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I'm not sure you understood the prompt of the thread, or the implied epistemic status of each post.
I do not claim to be the world's expert on Von Neumann, or OO, or FP, or Excel, or data modeling.
I do not even claim my opinions to be correct.
Just my opinions **as of NOW**
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If I may attempt to make a bit of peace here, all 3 of you seem to have deep perspectives to the question of Von Neumann's contributions, from POVs of practicing programmer, historian, family etc. and comments on an offhand provocation are probably not the best place to go deep
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