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    Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 28 Nov 2019
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    True or false? The most popular science fiction tends to envision a high-agency future for the professional class, irrespective of whether it us otherwise utopian or dystopian. They’re middle class professionals. The most popular fantasy otoh seems to focus on high or low born.

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      2. Visakan Veerasamy‏ @visakanv 28 Nov 2019
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        rings true revenge of the salaryman vs hero's journey of the slave boy who would be king

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      3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 28 Nov 2019
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        Not necessarily revenge though. Mostly bureaucratic heroism actually.https://nplusonemag.com/online-only/online-only/bureaucratic-heroism/ …

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      2. Mathieu Helie‏ @mathieuhelie 28 Nov 2019
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        Star Wars is all of that in the same universe.

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      3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 28 Nov 2019
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        Star Wars is fantasy

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      2. Devdas Bhagat‏ @f3ew 28 Nov 2019
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        No. Science Fiction extends modern society, so older stuff extends high agency to the middle class. SF from other (non-white-male) authors/eras does not.

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      3. (have-YER! Candeira)‏ @candeira 28 Nov 2019
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        Even very white and male authors like William Gibson write non-middle class characters, and like to pit aristocrats vs smart-poor working class.

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      1. James Tiberius Stone‏ @Evolving_Ego 28 Nov 2019
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        The x-punk genres envision a high agency underclass.

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      2. Dan Ashton‏ @dashton__ 28 Nov 2019
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        Is that because basic science has typically been state funded? If high merit, professional bureaucrats have the most believable access to tech == most believable protagonists

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      3. Dan Ashton‏ @dashton__ 28 Nov 2019
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        I wonder if the future of good SF will be based on small teams distributed across the universe, doing cool unimaginable shit with gamma ray bursts

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      1. Pirates sleep soundly‏ @Wit_recycler 28 Nov 2019
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        If talking movies, Bladerunner maybe. District 9 neither utop/dyst. Alien franchise maybe. Mad Max no. Arrival no. Ex machina yes. Primer no. THX1138 maybe. Interstellar no. Inception maybe. Minority Rprt no. Dune not rly. Imo most films need more backstory to say for certain.

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