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Ok starting to kick the tires on ... this is going to be my starting point.
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If you want to try yourself, here's the link: roamresearch.com Demos / articles: roamresearch.com/#/v8/help/page Other resources that were helpful for the understanding what makes good notes: lesswrong.com/posts/NfdHG6oH lesswrong.com/posts/T382CLwA
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So it's like workflowy but with transclusion links? I like the premise so far. I've used workflowy half-assedly for years and this zettlekasten thing sounds similar to how I do index cards though way too disciplined.
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Not sure I like bulleted lists as the first class citizen. My basic unit is the paragraph and I don't think in lists well. We'll see. There's a soft line break within a bullet point, but no way to just have an unbulleted prose chunk as a page it seems.
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What's with this Daily Note thing... is it a soft prompt to create a journal-like log as a throughline for non-chronological notes? Slightly unclear on how this is not a wiki.
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My first expt is to try and bring notes from Scrivener for my book project over. I have a folder called "nuggets" that I'm porting manually. Copying smaller fragments to roam and moving larger chunks to a different Scrivener folder. Roam is clearly not for composing long texts.
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It's a layout algorithm for how the links between pages get visualized. Other option is the hierarchical directed graph layout algorithm dagre. Graph viz is alpha feature, but some people like it so we have kept it in. Lot of updates there coming.
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Ah graph viz is critical for what I'm trying to do. Without it, this would be worse than Scrivener+email (which is what I'm important my raw material from right now)
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Would love feature requests there Things we're thinking rn 1. Include indentation structure of links inside pages in the graph viz (so that people with daily-notes first style of writing can still see their tree structure of thoughts) 2. Include transclusions in graph viz
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* Collapse subtrees * Persist any manual rearrangements of nodes, make "auto arrange" or "cleanup" an option you choose rather than automatic * Draw new lines between nodes that lead to stub linked text at both ends
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A way to harmonize temporal and logical ordering in space is to make use of creation date/last updated time stamps within a version control view perhaps? This is a hard problem. Like long-scroll vertical axis where frequently updated page exists as a vertical thread of versions.