who the fuck else needed a door opening robot except some invasive ass mother fuckers jesus like cmon what did you think these were going to be deployed ashttps://twitter.com/NeolithicSheep/status/1198963291919454210 …
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they’re too fucking big to live with grandma and open doors for her, they’d knock the china down
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dumb ass engineers: “we’ll build it because we can, how fucking cool is this shit??” also dumb engineers: “if i dont do it, someone else will” their funders: “this will make me so fucking rich, helllo DOD”
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What’s dumb-ass about the first two statements besides the fact that humanist social determinists who believe they actually have agency over these decisions hate them? It’s only dumb-ass if you add a 4th line by the *same* people, “oh no what have we done?”
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it’s dumb because the implications of these capabilities are REALLY OBVIOUS if you know anything at all about how money, power and influence work
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basic go to market thinking isnt something most people who engineer things for a living are incentived to think about
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literally a FATAL FLAW imo
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Not really. I worked on drone and autonomous robotics for years and literally nobody I met on the civilian industry, military, or academic side had any illusions an;it what they were building and how it would be used. We literally used specific military and policing use cases.
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The peaceful civilian use cases are always just a nice-to-have plus market on the thinking. There is no agonizing or moral dilemmas. People with those social determinist tendencies tend not to get into such work at all.
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The trope of the clueless engineer who suddenly has a humanist consciousness raising moment of “oh god what have I done” is pure humanist wishful thinking combined with the self-important belief that they’re more morally “evolved” and see things poor dumb tech-fetishists don’t.
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If there is a cluelessness it is in humanism: Dumb humanists: “we must build tech by human values” Also dumb humanists: “oh no there is no ‘we’. We must educate the masses into a ‘we’” Their funders: “ah ha we can turn humanist ressentiment into populist media to gain power”
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building robots capable of opening doors is so so good and important for the progress of humanity, it’s true, but how will we make it pay for itself oh hmmm
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