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This is my conversational account. For my work follow @ribbonfarm, @breaking_smart, @artofgig. Tweets are 90% vacuous views, apathetically held. Mediocritopian.

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    1. Mark ( 🧘 🧪 🧙‍♂️ 💩 ❤️)‏ @meditationstuff 27 Oct 2019
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      there will be a real closed-form formula

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    2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 27 Oct 2019
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      And n is?

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    3. Mark ( 🧘 🧪 🧙‍♂️ 💩 ❤️)‏ @meditationstuff 27 Oct 2019
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      cardinality of discrete phase space of mind. all possible reachable mind states from current state

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    4. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 27 Oct 2019
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      m neurons each of which could be firing or not sets the upper bound of n as 2^m 😀

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    5. Mark ( 🧘 🧪 🧙‍♂️ 💩 ❤️)‏ @meditationstuff 27 Oct 2019
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      there must be redundancy then or don't have to walk the whole thing or something practically asymptotes or i dunno 😁

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    6. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 27 Oct 2019
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      Yeah neural macrostates are going to be a much smaller subset. A tighter upper bound would be long-term memory size as a function of age. That’s harder to estimate though. It’s the compression of life log input.

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    7. Mark ( 🧘 🧪 🧙‍♂️ 💩 ❤️)‏ @meditationstuff 27 Oct 2019
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      concretely speaking, afaikt, older people generally have to meditate longer to get same effects as younger. but it's ofc not linear. there is indeed some sort of compression/chunking but surprisingly lossless-seeming for unique/one-off events. i think incompressibility is bound

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    8. Mark ( 🧘 🧪 🧙‍♂️ 💩 ❤️)‏ @meditationstuff 27 Oct 2019
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      compressibility is mind-contingent though. will be tradeoff between unique/incompressible experiences and that person's prereflective learned ability to compress or find elegance. maybe 5% genetics/*hardware* and 95% self-/nurture-(meta-)bootstrapping *software*

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    9. Mark ( 🧘 🧪 🧙‍♂️ 💩 ❤️)‏ @meditationstuff 27 Oct 2019
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      so like that person's mental kolmogorov complexity will be upper bound

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    10. Mark ( 🧘 🧪 🧙‍♂️ 💩 ❤️)‏ @meditationstuff 27 Oct 2019
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      er, rather, that's best a person can do and will likely be worse? and upper bound will be if that person never figures out better compression in course of meditating, which is unlikely.

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 27 Oct 2019
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      That’s roughly the concept behind my freyrag staircase concepthttp://www.tempobook.com/glossary/#freytag-staircase …

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        2. Mark ( 🧘 🧪 🧙‍♂️ 💩 ❤️)‏ @meditationstuff 27 Oct 2019
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          Like, can you add more stories about the stories but in a way that somehow shrinks the staircase even as n increases.

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        3. Mark ( 🧘 🧪 🧙‍♂️ 💩 ❤️)‏ @meditationstuff 27 Oct 2019
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          Perhaps number of stories increases but each story is more elegantly built out of previous stories, which are losslessly refactored; more reuse without loss of information.

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        1. Mark ( 🧘 🧪 🧙‍♂️ 💩 ❤️)‏ @meditationstuff 27 Oct 2019
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          Can the Freytag Staircase or the Deep Stories that comprise it operate on itself/themselves? Perhaps the dual interpretation of growth or decay affords this operation.

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