he's being fairly accessible imo - almost no music nerd vocab, just common terms and every day descriptors. i would wager most anyone growing up on pitchfork reviews, etc could probably follow at least the gist of that write up
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Oh I understand the write-up. I just have zero expectations of hearing all that in the music.
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This one is still a fairly quick look on Yeezus though. When someone writes a book on that album, it'll need an entire chapter on its treatment of the OJ trial.
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You’re one of the initiates then huh
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Well documented, yes.https://twitter.com/alexeyguzey/status/898929362140930049?s=20 …
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How much investment in listening to music did it take you to arrive at that appreciation do you think?
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If I remember correctly, there was about a year where about four times a week, I would listen to Kanye West's entire discography in reverse-chronological order. There was a couple years of deep-diving on music blogs before that, but not a lot transferred between genres.
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Hmm this is a good data point. So 200 listens of what, 10 albums at an hour each, so 2000 hours training of auditory cortex alone. Plus all the meta learning for 2 years.
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really depends on your pre existing level of music knowledge. music/sound has been a large part of my life - personally and professionally - almost forever. i'd be mostly comfortable telling you things about an artist's work - a la reed's review - after a few listens.
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music is extremely iterative - it builds off what came before. analysis is less about understanding the new and more connecting it to the old. the larger your catalog and the deeper your knowledge of how that catalog came to be, the faster you can chew through the latest release
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How far back? What’s the logical historical starting point of casual listening where Kanye’s stuff would be relatively low marginal effort to grok?
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ye is a very dynamic producer, so if you want it all, you're going all the way back to the tribes. you could skip ahead tho to classical music: from reed's own words: "And sometimes it’s like a synth orchestra." you can see the new (synth) -> old (orchestra) connection
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