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    Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 16 Oct 2019
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    Is a post-verbal high technology civilization possible, where most people don’t use language, and it’s a specialized skill like neurosurgery?

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      1. Samuel Hammond  🌐 🏛‏ @hamandcheese 16 Oct 2019
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        I say no. Language is the medium that enabled the sudden emergence of human ultra sociality.

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      1. Naveen Mishra‏ @_naveenmishra 16 Oct 2019
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        How narrowly are we defining language here? General Case - I gather language is very important Add in artificial telepathy and things get ya know.. weird

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      1. of arms and the devilman i sing‏ @swimming_blerd 16 Oct 2019
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        No

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      1. Sadeq Ali‏ @sahilz79 16 Oct 2019
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        In Hollywood movies all the more advanced aliens seem to be that way - already today speaking to someone on the phone seems to be more of an irritation than anything else. That said I think writing will go first - will be like calligraphy soon.

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      1. TheEclecticSeer‏ @theeclecticseer 16 Oct 2019
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        Even better. 'My robot assistant will talk to your robot assistant."

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      1. Carlos Bueno‏ @Archivd 16 Oct 2019
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        Watching my son navigate interfaces like YouTube and Minecraft definitely opened my eyes to that. But I think you discount the power of sound/symbol correspondence. We might get more hieroglyphic (😘 𓀑 <3) but not illiterate.

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      1. Middle Aged Reply Guy, But Good‏ @forvrin 16 Oct 2019
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        I find such a possibility truly strange. Even in a post-verbal society, I find it hard to get to post-language. Like trying to communicate the feeling of wetness without the concept of a liquid. Short of triggering synapses directly, and synaptic shapes are not universal

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      1. Evan Warfel‏ @anotherpianosan 16 Oct 2019
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        Only if google's @GoogleATAP gets their act together using project Soli to recognize customizable hand gesture languages.

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      2. 𓅄‏ @usufructionist 16 Oct 2019
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        Neal Stephenson's essay "In the beginning... was the command line" points in this direction, using the CLI -> GUI computing transition as an example of a word-based culture moving towards one that gives 'the gist' while hiding complexitypic.twitter.com/8MujPaz7gh

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      3. Olaf‏ @QiaochuYuan 17 Oct 2019
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        the japanese were, of course, deprived of their military after WWII, which i think goes some way towards explaining the cuteness pivot

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