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    1. nicole‏ @nwilliams030 11 Oct 2019
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      "Not designing for addiction" isn't possible. Design guidelines are for creating visual habituation at the very least. The line between: (this + a "delightful" experience) and (addiction) is so thin.https://twitter.com/nwilliams030/status/1182665750768750593 …

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      In other words, in life, not just UX: designing to streamline visual norms or processes so that they require less cognitive effort (and thus begin to form habits), is simultaneously natural AND a slippery slope to designing _for_ negative addictive patterns
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    2. nicole‏ @nwilliams030 11 Oct 2019
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      Call to cognitive sciences / neuroscience people: What would you say are some scientific principles to consider when attempting to delineate between pleasant/delightful design with low friction and a negatively addictive design?

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    3. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 11 Oct 2019
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      There isn’t one. The substance of the distinction lies outside the design, in outcomes and their social desirability.

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    4. nicole‏ @nwilliams030 11 Oct 2019
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      what does it mean for something to be outside of design? isn't social context part of the design process? Surely it's possible to establish some- any guiding principles other than "don't design addictively" even if they aren't universal

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      Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 11 Oct 2019
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      Not if it’s too far outside the scope. When you design a syringe are you going to make it easy to use for good drugs, hard to use for cocaine? There’s a point beyond which the designed artifact is simply the top of a societal pattern that is both dark and light.

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        2. Venkatesh Rao‏ @vgr 11 Oct 2019
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          The conceit of ethical design is that designers own the entire scope of use of a tool. They don’t. Governance is not a UI problem and it is autocratic to act like it is. You’re not going to resolve gun violence with biometric grips for example. You have to debate 2nd amendment.

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        3. nicole‏ @nwilliams030 11 Oct 2019
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          imo, these are both good points but a little far in the extreme to speak to what i'm talking about i think. instagram, for ex: its piece in the puzzle of addiction is much bigger than a syringe. It's not merely part of societal patterns - it has served a part in creating them

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