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There are workarounds. I didn’t say an exact miniature civilization isomorphic to the one we have. I said narrow/deep. A sustainable high-functioning deep tech capability that can survive a collapse. I’d expect a deep hoarding component for example, for certain things.
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I think you don't appreciate quite how many things it would take even to sustain 1900 level technology. Where are your specialists in metrology in all of this (you need gauge blocks). Where are your specialists in high volume specialty chemicals and their infrastructure?
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Yes and there’s the toaster thing too, and google “fabricatory depth” while you’re at it, if you want a formal framework for your point. I understand what you’re talking about. It’s just not what I’m talking about and it’s not worth the trouble to elaborate more on Twitter, sorry
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Well, okay, but understand that I don't *think* I'm an entirely unreasonable observer, and you've apparently said something that's confusing to *me*, because it seemed like you were talking about what budget would be needed to create an autarkic system...
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...and one with a reasonable facsimile of the range of products of current industry. I think on a $3B budget and with a small city, you would be hard pressed to create an autarkic system that could maintain a c.a. 1800 standard of living even given current knowledge.
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An unpaid conversation on Twitter is not a good place to try and get somewhere on this question. That’s why I’m not trying. I have a hypothesis. You think it is prima facie false. Neither of us has a nice 3-year grant to study and settle this.
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You claimed I misunderstood your hypothesis. I only asked that you disabuse me of my misperceptions about your claim, not that you prove your claim itself. I'd like to understand what it was that you actually meant.
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For any non-trivial research, refining to precise hypothesis is half the work. It’s not actually a reasonable thing to ask for on twitter. We must all live with misunderstandings in this 2c-thought world. Sometimes we grok spirit of each other’s spitballing, sometimes we don’t.
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I have to confess that I find it hard to believe that you are clear enough in your mind about what you're claiming that you can know my model of it is wrong, but that it is not possible for you to articulate what is wrong about my model of your belief. However...
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